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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 05:55 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Hoody over leathers Reply with quote

I wear leathers all year round because generally I don't ride if it's below 4C or if it's raining. I have an old hoody that I've had for years but I've never worn it because it's too big. I tried it on over my leathers and it fits perfectly.

Obviously a thermal or windproof jacket would be better but I don't really want to spend any money. Would a hoody over leathers make it much warmer?
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PostPosted: 07:08 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need anyone's opinion. Put your old hoody on over your leathers and go for a ride.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just check it doesn't obscure your vision when you do shoulder checks.

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Just check when it's over your helmet that it doesn't obscure your vision when you do shoulder checks.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of protection, no. In terms of helping your slide along the road? I think it would tear way too quickly to get any kinda grip, and once it's gone it's back to your leather protection.

I will wear something over my riding gear if I need to be warmer, or need something waterproof on.
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:46 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't believe it will make any difference. Clothing works through insulation, keeping warm air trapped against your body. On the outside of the leathers, it won't be able to do this and any insulation effect will be lost.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear a hoody over my leathers quite a bit, does seem to take a bit of the wind chill off, do also get a lot of looks and people telling you that you should be wearing proper gear.

Can get a bit tiring explaining to folk that there's actually a decent leather jacket underneath, and that I'm not actually that fat...
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:
Can get a bit tiring explaining to folk that there's actually a decent leather jacket underneath


Sounds like you shouldn't even bother.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
No, I don't believe it will make any difference. Clothing works through insulation, keeping warm air trapped against your body. On the outside of the leathers, it won't be able to do this and any insulation effect will be lost.


Well that's a load of bollocks. It works like double glazing, that extra layer of air between his leather jacket and hoody will make it harder for the cold air to reach his skin and for the warm air to escape.

I've worn a hoody over my leather jacket a few times when I've gone to my girlfriend's house in the day when it's warm-ish but by 10pm it's got pretty cold so I put my hoody over the top and it works. It's nothing dramatic but it is noticeably warmer.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
Tungtvann wrote:
No, I don't believe it will make any difference. Clothing works through insulation, keeping warm air trapped against your body. On the outside of the leathers, it won't be able to do this and any insulation effect will be lost.


Well that's a load of bollocks. It works like double glazing, that extra layer of air between his leather jacket and hoody will make it harder for the cold air to reach his skin and for the warm air to escape.

I've worn a hoody over my leather jacket a few times when I've gone to my girlfriend's house in the day when it's warm-ish but by 10pm it's got pretty cold so I put my hoody over the top and it works. It's nothing dramatic but it is noticeably warmer.


Just my opinion. I should have said 'much difference' really. Leathers are not known for being the most breathable so any insulating effect will be minimal, however, in your experience it has made a difference so that's what counts. I'm just looking at it from a strictly scientific view, I don't wear leathers nor wear hoodies over them, so what do I know!
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until it drops below 0 I'll happily ride in leathers with thermals underneath and a hoodie over the top. Colder than that I'll switch to my textile jacket, which I hate. Hoodies are a useful extra layer. Recommended.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:
I'm just looking at it from a strictly scientific view


But if you look at it from a scientific view you should see that it is an extra layer of air between the skin and the outside air which helps insulation. Leathers aren't very wind resistant which is why textiles are warmer, they keep the cold outside air out better than leathers do, which is why having an extra layer (that the hoody will give) keeps the person warmer.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just come back from my first trip out with a hoody on top of my leathers Mr. Green I only wore 5 layers (compression thermal layer, long sleeve merino wool layer, leathers with thermal lining, and the hoody). It was 7C (so pretty warm tbh) and a 30 minute ride each way and I didn't feel the cold at all. I couldn't tell if I was any warmer with the hoody over the top because I would have probably been quite warm without it anyway.

I went for a 1 hour 15 minute walk and it was nice having a front pocket to put my hands in (helmet chained to bike, gloves under seat).

The only problem I had when riding was the toggles hitting me in the head when going over 30 mph. I just stopped and tucked them in and then it was fine.

So plus sides:
Slightly warmer
Pocket to keep hands warm (when off the bike obviously)
Can be seen easier (red hoody as opposed to black leathers Very Happy)
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
Until it drops below 0 I'll happily ride in leathers with thermals underneath and a hoodie over the top. Colder than that I'll switch to my textile jacket, which I hate. Hoodies are a useful extra layer. Recommended.



You are a better man than I. In 3 degrees I wear a thermal suit, winter bottom linings, a thin jumper, two hoodies (yes, two!) And silk inner gloves. And two neck warmers. Also double up thick socks. Laughing Laughing

Some people can handle the cold better I guess.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you wear the hoody under the leather jacket instead? Mine's tight, but I can generally fit a hoody underneath it. These days I generally wear full thermals, a shirt, jumper/hoody, and the jacket (and jeans on my bottom half obviously).
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
Until it drops below 0 I'll happily ride in leathers with thermals underneath and a hoodie over the top. Colder than that I'll switch to my textile jacket, which I hate. Hoodies are a useful extra layer. Recommended.



You are a better man than I. In 3 degrees I wear a thermal suit, winter bottom linings, a thin jumper, two hoodies (yes, two!) And silk inner gloves. And two neck warmers. Also double up thick socks. Laughing Laughing

Some people can handle the cold better I guess.


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PostPosted: 21:47 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:




How do you line your bottom?


Basically you rip out the winter linings of the textile trousers, and ram them into your leather ones. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:




How do you line your bottom?


Basically you rip out the winter linings of the textile trousers, and ram them into your leather ones. Laughing Laughing


Thats a disappointingly un-BDSM answer.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So bro, maybe next time. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
Can't you wear the hoody under the leather jacket instead?.


But this stretches the leather so then when it comes to summer and you're only wearing a t-shirt it won't fit right therefore offering less protection.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
Benno wrote:
Can't you wear the hoody under the leather jacket instead?.


But this stretches the leather so then when it comes to summer and you're only wearing a t-shirt it won't fit right therefore offering less protection.


Shocked

I need to do this more often then. My jacket is like a straightjacket.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The jacket should be tight though. It should restrict your movement slightly but not enough to cause discomfort.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 09 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do this too!
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 10 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tungtvann wrote:


Just my opinion. I should have said 'much difference' really. Leathers are not known for being the most breathable so any insulating effect will be minimal, however, in your experience it has made a difference so that's what counts. I'm just looking at it from a strictly scientific view, I don't wear leathers nor wear hoodies over them, so what do I know!


Breathability really doesn't have anything to do with it. If you trap a layer of air whether it's warm air or not, it'll act as an insulator. Air is a good insulator in its own right. It probably won't have a huge effect but it will have an effect. That's science that is. Wink
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 10 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
The jacket should be tight though. It should restrict your movement slightly but not enough to cause discomfort.


Well I could always wear my...textile jacket Shocked
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