Alarm advise wanted

[Slavo]

Right then guys. Got my baby home today

Though I have no security on it whatsoever apart from a german shepard. I'd take her everywhere with me to guard my bike but she doesn't sit still on the back and she's got one of those funny shaped heads that just don't fit right in a helmet.

So, what alarms are the best, for value and effectiveness. All opinions greatly appreciated, thankyou.

John

[The Dude]

Hi John. I have a Spyball alarm on my bike at the moment and it is a very good alarm. Most bike shops should be aware of Spyball. It is a basic alarm/immobilizer and does exactly what it says on the tin. They cost around £300, that includes fitting.
My last alarm was a Krypton alarm. It has fancy gadgets which you can read about at the site https://www.kryptonalarms.com/
I had a few problems with the bike i had with the Krypton alarm on it. But i am not sure if these problems had anything to do with the alarm. One morning i got up and my battery was totally dead. There are lots of other alarms out there. Those are the 2 i know. By the way. After you pay £100 for the Krypton alarm, you could end up paying anything from £70 - £120 to have it fitted. Hope that helps a little

P.S. if you need to know anything about either alarms just ask. The remote engine start up and cut off are quite good on the Krypton.

[bikegirl]

Also buy yourself a battery optimiser. Alarms and immobilisers tend to be power hungry and can wear a battery down. If you leave your bike for weeks without use (say, over winter), then £20-30 is a good investment. You can fit it permanently to the battery terminal and just plug your bike in when you get into your garage after a run.

A new battery for a modern bike tends to be a sealed unit and can set you back £80.

Susie
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[monkeyman]

What bike do you have. As far as i can see there are only 3 types of bike thiefs

The professionals that go for brand new CBR's and R1's etc.

The joy rider, proberbly go with a 125 of some description.

The arsonist, will steal any bike, most proberably pushing it down the road.

I purchased a £35 alarm off ebay for my NSR i also have a disk lock and a fat chain. It has some cool features like movement, anti hot wire etc basically does the job, but will be rendered useless if the battery wire is cut and it is hot wired, but unlikely as there are about 7 wires going into my igniction now which i have changed to all black.

As my bike is only a 125 its not likely someone is going 2 pull up a van and steal it. although they proberbly wouldn't be 2 bothered about the alarm.

The joyrider is going 2 run away soon as it goes off, the arsonist proberbly would as well.

If you have a new expensive bike, it proberbly worth investing in a very good chain and ground anchor, as most proffesionals don't give a shit about an alarm have seen videos of 3 guys just picking up a bike and putting it in the van, alarm blazing and chain dragging + the public are very unlikely to step in if you cant here. Also a disk lock is good when your out in public as they are very hard 2 remove(always have a spare key to your disk lock, trust me it sucks if you lose it).
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[Roo]

In my opinion any security device that doesn't physically stop the bike being lifted into a van is utterly useless, alarms especially so. Nobody gives a toss if they hear an alarm going off these days. I used to work in a bike shop every now and again we'd go pick up a broken bike. Often left with disc locks alarms etc on. We lifted them into an unmarked van and never did anyone question this.
I'd stick with the dog.
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[Steve H]

I have a Datatool and a pager alert on mine but wherever possible chain it up anyway.

Even when someone goes to sit on the bike with the alarm enabled it starts its' annoying warning bleep (but thankfully doesn't go into its' fully fledged signal!). Although the alarm is predominantly there to stop the bike being nicked I'm sure we've all been in the situation where we've seen people walking past bikes and then returning for a quick 'leg over' (if you'll excuse the phrase!) and pose before jumping off and walking away.

A friend of mine owns a Harley and prior to buying the Datatool system regularly returned to his bike to find people sat on it, which in turn caused numerous scratches on his tank. With the Alarm fitted he's noticed a marked difference in the amount of unwanted attention that his bike gets.

As has been mentioned in other threads on this topic any sort of security device is purely a deterrent and if some pratt wants to steal your bike there's very little you can do to stop them - for peace of mind however I would certainly recommend as much security as you can reasonably afford.

SteveH
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[Bendy]

[The Dude]

Also, putting an alarm on your bike should bring your insurance down. Then atleast if some little f*@ker does steal it, you can always say you did all you could to stop it happening. I had a scooter last year that got stolen right outside my window on a very rainy night. I never heard a thing. I just forgot to chain it up that night. There is no worse feeling than looking out your window and thinking to yourself, hmmm, somethings missing. Then it dawns on you around 2 seconds later. Everynight, or when i'm gonna be in the house for more than 20 minutes, my RS gets both wheels chained to a steel fence thats cemented into the ground and the alarm is enabled. I didn't pay £3,675 for some toerag, who probably can't be bothered to go out and work so he can afford his own, to come and take it, then wrap it round a tree and set it on fire when he gets bored with it.

[priller]

I've got an accumen alarm on mine, easy enough to install yourself. Doesn't stop in being lifted into a van, but with a disk lock it stops joy riders trying to steel it.

Somebody keeps setting it off in uni though, either that or somebody tries to steal it everyday

[dandit]

I've got a datatool veto evo and yes nobody pays attention to alarms but I allways try to park it where I can hear it and at the end of the day it don't matter what security you have if a thief want's it the thief shall have it, unless it's a drugged up spotty teenager looking for a joyride they don't like alarms or locks they like easy targets
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[dainesefreak]

I had a Meta alarm/immobiliser installed on my last bike and found it to be very good. This time I have just stuck with the factory fitted HISS for the insurance discount and a big lock.

As has been said, alarms are all well and good as long as you are within range to hear them yourself, everyone else ignores them.

I'm also going to get some of these fitted after payday;

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=25893&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

There's no substitute for physical security.

[30sumthin gal]

I've got datatad, disclock, chain, Ground Anchor and sola-larm/immobiliser, and its a 125cc!

Last week a neighbour had her scooter lifted and set alight (had chain but nothing else, the BAS******DS had bolt-cutters), they came back for mine and the alarm was triggered. My bike stayed put.

Get as much security as you can. If you can't afford 3rd party fire and theft minimum, dont get the bike!
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