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Just the simple obvious unuseful advice
Relax, introduce yourself, don't build it up in your mind, speaking to a group of people is no different to speaking to one but you have to do it louder
I have little problem being in crowds or being the centre of attention, but as soon as the pressures on I shit myself and my mind goes into spag mode, I had to do a trainers course on public presenting which was graded and it was the worst experience of it's kind in my life
I look back and think I could do so much better now.
If you feel you are bombing then do what a stand up comedian advised on something I watched and say something honest, confront the fact you're being nervous and you'll find you're a lot less nervous and people are more forgiving
"Wow, a lot of people here, no pressure hey "
Being confident in what you're saying makes it a lot easier too, if you're talking shit you don't believe in it'll be a lot harder
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Don't over plan, practicing doesnt work for me as it feels stupid unless i've got someone to practice to, but feeling stupid is part of the nerves and getting better really
The most you want is some notes with lines you need to get to and talk around it.
In my course I did a pretend training course on using google (yeah derp, was meant to be derp) I wrote out loads that almost turned into a script, it was utterly useless when it came to it.
All you need is a list with the important points that you went to get across, a basic structure to your presentation (beginning, middle, end) then at the end recap and tell them what you've told them.
So first you tell them what you're going to tell them
Then you tell them
Then you tell them what you told them
If you're the host a good starting ground and ice breaker is housekeeping rules, nearest toilet, tea breaks, introductions
Not really enough info about what you're doing to go into depth, there's a whole science behind public speaking, some people are naturally charismatic, others need training. ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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I've done it a few times, try to start small. Introductions are a nice easy start - keep it simple, don't try to wow on your first attempt. Just a short, sweet here is...
Once you're used to being there and giving just the facts from the sheets you can spice it up a little. ____________________ current: ducati monster 750
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I've done a fair bit of this recently, and it wasn't something that comes naturally to me, but I have got a lot better since I first started talking in small team meetings.
The point where I think I got 'good' at it was when my boss dropped me in it with a 'developmental opportunity' (I should have known better at this point). I had to go and speak to the Probation Service about something, I was assured it was a 'small team meeting' - on getting there I found it was a meeting for the whole of West Mercia Probation Trust. Full on lecture theatre full of em. I nearly shat myself.
Anyway, after pulling myself together I ditched my speech and just wrote a few key things to talk about - I found this much more natural and far better for inviting further discussion in a Q & A at the end.
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So first you tell them what you're going to tell them
Then you tell them
Then you tell them what you told them |
Very important. If its one key message, make sure it sinks in. If its a lot of smaller points, recap frequently.
It is something that takes time to get good at; keep it simple and clear to begin with, particularly if you're hosting events. Introductions, domestics etc. Also keep an eye on timings and the agenda; don't rush yourself but don't drag on either. Nobody minds going to lunch a little earlier if you cover everything!
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This also helps. Explain that its the first time you've done this - everyone has to start somewhere and a lot of the audience may have been in your shoes at some point.
If you have anything on Powerpoint, for fucks sake don't just read it. Sure fire way to lose everyone's interest.
One last thing, unless you're funny, don't try to make jokes. Keep it light by all means - this makes the inevitable tedious parts of the day go quicker - but don't go out of your way to make jokes  ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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| Bubbs wrote: | So who here regularly has to speak infront of people and how do you prepare, and build confidence for this kind of thing. I know a lot of people find it easy so I would greatly appreciate a response from someone who has combatted this fear, however all responses are totally welcome. |
I have to do it quite often, big talks in front of 50+ people, group discussions, poster presentations etc. I am by no means an authority on the issue, but I used to crack under the pressure and this is the stuff that gets me by. I'm now pretty good at it:
On of the key things for me is knowing the topics I want to talk about really well, not necessarily the exact wording, but enough that if I lose my train of thought I can figure out where I went wrong.
My biggest tip, is to get someone you know to sit in the middle of the crowd and talk to them, like it is a conversation and you just cant stfu. They are in the middle of the crowd so you aren't mumbling into your chest or looking at the floor, but you are also less aware of the other 50+ people sat watching you.
It also helps that people aren't hanging on your every word and as they don't all know you personally, probably can't even tell that you are nervous.
One thing that you will do is talk really fucking quickly, actively consider talking slow. If you feel like you are talking just too slow, you are probably talking at about the right pace.
Stand up straight and project your voice, don't shout, but give your voice depth and volume. This is also easier when you talk slower, because you don't run out of steam part way through compacted sentences.
It gets easier with time, practice it in front of people you trust. Ask for feedback.
I did my bro's best man speech and really enjoyed it. A year before that I'd have been bricking it. |
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Start off with "Unaccustomed as I am to public speaking..."
Straight away, you've got 'em by the jaffers.
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I had to do a presentation as part of my professional exams, and managed to blag some formal training from work. It involved being videoed whilst going through the presentation. The first time I went through it was cringeworthy, the second was marginally better but by the end of the day I was far more confident.
It let me see that I used my notes (printed and stuck onto postcards) to hide behind, but at least it gave me something to do with my hands.
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Start speaking looking at something else i.e the clock,door summing above the people you are talking to, then slowing starting looking at people.
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Some very good advice to which I can add very little. I regularly speak to groups with as little as 2 people up to a couple of hundred. My record this year was six thousand in 2 days . At first I absolutely hated it, sweating, panic attacks and even blurred vision but now I almost enjoy it, almost. What works for me is to actually know what I'm talking about helping to make it all seem natural. I will plan the speech content but only as an overview. I then rehearse the presentation in a quiet room to check content and timing. You don't have to work to any constraints so it just gets easier.
One very important lesson I learnt early on was that if you don't know then say so. There are far too many smart arses who will try to catch you out / back you into a corner and it undermines the rest of your talk. Just tell them that you will be available to answer their questions directly after the main presentation. Nine times out of ten they aren't interested without an audience. ____________________ https://www.metacafe.com/watch/1972097/how_to_behave_on_a_forum/ |
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Belated, but thanks for all your advice. I have my first public speaking task on Monday. I've been trying not to think about it all week but failed miserably.
It should be pretty easy and straight forward as long as I keep my nerve.
Will let you know how I get on when I get back.
Anymore last minute advice would be appreciated.
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Ask members of the audience where they came from, and then take the piss out of that place based on stereotyped characteristics.
Oh wait..
OK maybe look at some Youtube vids where people have given lectures and presentations - they'll have their own styles but it should give you some idea of what might be expected. ____________________ If you can keep your head when all about you
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I used to be in a band at school playing lead guitar, bit different I know but was very nerve racking as I had to play in front of a 1000 people or more a few times!
Don't think about it too much, just try and enjoy the buzz! The wait is the worst thing, once you are up there it does feel awkward for the first minute or so but you eventually get used to it and start to enjoy it
In time you'll probably begin to love doing it, I never got to the point where I wasn't nervous any more but I do really miss the buzz! ____________________ Bandit 600 - deaded |
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