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venox
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Clutch & Gearing Reply with quote

Sorry if this has already been covered but i'm just trying to familiarise myself with the clutch & gearing process.

When you pull away and let the clutch out to engage first - do you disengage and then re-engage it for each gear, or do you just keep tapping up the gears and only use the clutch when starting off?
Sorry if this is a woeful question Embarassed but what can i say? Shifty
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Re: Clutch & Gearing Reply with quote

Either way.

Most people at least use the clutch for going down gears, especially on bigger bikes.

Have a search for cluthless shifting on here.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're new to bikes (which I guess you are, due to not knowing this..just like me!) you should disengage, and reingage the clutch every gear, you can do it without it but if you dont do it properly I think theres a lot of gearbox wear, and unless you're racing it wont make any difference anyway, so yeah do it every gear
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venox
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!

Duely noted Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:18 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've heard, there is very little gearbox wear, and if trying to accelerate hard, it does help with acceleration, at least that's what I've found, and I do need to accelerate hard, as with being on a restricted NSR afterall!!



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venox
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Noggin,

It's probably the one thing that I feel I will have to get used to. I don't even think about it when driving a car but somehow i don't think its the same. Did you find moving up and down the gears a pretty natural operation to do and is it easy to learn? Is it press down to go up the gears or what?

Thanks for your replies!

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PostPosted: 17:42 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gearbox layout is as follows:

5
4
3
2
...N
1

Press down on the lever to go down the list, up on the lever to go up the list. To get to neutral, push it up gently from first and it should slip into neutral.

It's a bit confusing at first, but after a little while it's natural and easy.

Is that bike in your avatar yours? If so, be careful. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would heartily reccomend doing a CBT before you commit to doing a DAS course if you are unhappy about how bike gears work. Also, going straight out and getting a sports 600 might not be such a great idea either...

People do it of course, but remember that most new riders drop their bike at least once within their first year of riding and sportsbike plastics are very expensive! Shocked

Just a thought. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're talking about normally, don't bother with the clutchless gearing, just use the clutch!!

Sorry, I thought you just wanted clutchless, you can do it either way!

For cbt, use the clutch!

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys,

Your replies are great. MarJay - comments make sense and echo what 'Jason' said at streetbike said about doing the CBT first. Will do that. I do keep on dwelling over should I?/shouldn't I? about the 600. All I know is that I am above average intelligence & maturity and will have to be very respectful of the power on tap.

If I was buying one to commute through busy towns then I wouldn't dream of it, but it will be more like a hobby and an alternate form of transport for those nice journeys on those rare dry days Dance!

Thanks Carvell, suprised that its not N 1 2 3 4 5 6 ?

Once again - thanks for all your great advice guys!
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

venox wrote:
I do keep on dwelling over should I?/shouldn't I? about the 600.


Go and do your CBT, your DAS, and then decide what bike to get.

I did my DAS and decided that a CB500 was plenty to be learning on - after all when you do DAS you have a full licence but all of 3/4/5 actual days riding experience, so you are very much still learning even though you've passed.

Spent some time on the CB5 and then got the 600 when I'd got past the 'inept' stage.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 01 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

venox wrote:
but it will be more like a hobby and an alternate form of transport for those nice journeys on those rare dry days Dance!

That was my plan, well nearly, I planned to get a 125 until I could afford a car/driving lessons, then keep the bike for fun/easy commuting in the dry, otherwise use the car.
But not anymore, soon as I had my first geared bike, I was hooked, won't get me in a car anymore Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 02 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would love to go everywhere and I will probably want to when I pass but over the past few weeks have been noticing how few bikers you see in the rain and also at night. Obviously understand why but it must be sooooooooo frustrating if you have a dream machine sitting in the garage and have to take the wife's little hatchback because it's wet, etc. as it rains quite a lot Sad
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 02 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is wrong with riding in the rain anyway? You get wet (if you don't wear waterproofs like idiot me...) and you can't see where you're going so well, but otherwise I've not minded it so much.
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