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new001
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Quick question ? Reply with quote

The other day I noticed some bikers during the day putting their foot down on the tarmac during turning on a bend at low speed these weren't learners but full license holders.

Why would they do that, just curious ?
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scared of slipping off in the ice, putting ur foot Down won't help atall if your Gunna fall off your Gunna fall off Valentino Rossi does it on the track so not sure of the effects when racing
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
Scared of slipping off in the ice, putting ur foot Down won't help atall if your Gunna fall off your Gunna fall off Valentino Rossi does it on the track so not sure of the effects when racing


They just dangle their legs to counteract heavy braking forces apparently.

Putting your foot down on a bend even at low speed is going to end up hurting if the bike does slide away though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some riders do it in the wet, on the basis that a minor slide might be saved a little easier. I've saved a couple by leaning off more, so that the bike has more room to regain grip without touching down hard parts.

I've seen a couple of very smooth scooter riders ride with their legs hanging off either side of the scooter (might even have been the same guy I saw twice), I guess they use their feet as feelers for judging lean angle. Risky business if you don't know what you're doing or if you do it at any speed, very easy to break an ankle touching the ground with anything that grips tarmac at speed.

At very slow speed (e.g. switching between lanes of traffic at standstill), I'll sometimes pivot around a foot to do a very sharp but quick turn; usually only on the scooter though.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe OP saw super moto riders. Foot out is like the knee down of the sports bike world Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
Scared of slipping off in the ice, putting ur foot Down won't help atall if your Gunna fall off your Gunna fall off


I would dispute the above comment.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/7/9/8461f2ab-a357-4c7f-a028-777808dbfa17.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MX and off road riders do it instead of the knee down. The reason being that you dont lean off raod and try keep the bike as perpendiculr to the road as possible. If the front wheel digs in a quick kick can starighten you and save a high side.

a few times in sand a quick of the ground on the side the front wheel dug in had righted me and saved a fall. But an MX boot is very rigid. you dont want to try it with road boot and risk a broken ankle
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i have saved ateast one fall doing that, not on tarmac however. i was turining into my road (which is completely unmade and a dirt track) and my rear wheel decided while i was leaning to start sliding more then well, i don't know a slippery thing on a slope made of mud, and i instinctivly foot down and i KNEW i was falling off(i'm not smiler) and saved the day.
But i put it down to not leaning very far and what was happening was the bike was slipping away from me not falling down so i held the front almost in place and the rear kept sliding until it decided to give me gril and away we went
Sounds a bit tall, proably isn't 100% accurate but thats the best i made of it
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I saved a bike from slipping under me by putting my foot down and the rear sliding until it foudn grip/was inline (off road)
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would dispute the above comment.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/IMG_2568.jpg

bet that took you a while to get up!

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PostPosted: 00:36 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

steady eddie wrote:
I would dispute the above comment.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/IMG_2568.jpg

bet that took you a while to get up!

"must keep momentum going. Don't stop. Don't stop! Faster. Oh shit Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing


Looks as though it's a down hill.
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/IMG_2568.jpg


Would that be low-ish speed high revs playing the clutch?

Dread the day i have to ride through something like that.
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually_Wrong wrote:

Would that be low-ish speed high revs playing the clutch?

Dread the day i have to ride through something like that.


Nope. First gear, tickover and slipping the clutch.

It was harder going up. That was second gear, tickover, slipping the clutch.

If it starts running away, hit the kill switch, not the brake.

My mate rode past me on his MZ TS250 on metzeler road tyres, both feet up.

The point was however, a well placed foot down or foot dab CAN in fact, stop you dropping your bike. The photo I posted was more like standing up and using the bike to push you along like you were on skis than sitting on the bike.
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Usually_Wrong wrote:

Would that be low-ish speed high revs playing the clutch?

Dread the day i have to ride through something like that.


Nope. First gear, tickover and slipping the clutch.

It was harder going up. That was second gear, tickover, slipping the clutch.

If it starts running away, hit the kill switch, not the brake.

My mate rode past me on his MZ TS250 on metzeler road tyres, both feet up.

The point was however, a well placed foot down or foot dab CAN in fact, stop you dropping your bike. The photo I posted was more like standing up and using the bike to push you along like you were on skis than sitting on the bike.


good to know for future reference
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly no high revs, I rode in the snow we have here a few weeks back. I used the same technique as Stinkwheel describes, low revs, slip the clutch & feet down......It was a bitch in a few places but not impossible to get to work & back.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to add the road was a little wet but was not icy.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode into my works car park with both feet hovering for a couple of days when it was sheet ice, not much turning involved getting in but reckon it would have helped had a wheel slipped.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dungbug wrote:
Certainly no high revs, I rode in the snow we have here a few weeks back. I used the same technique as Stinkwheel describes, low revs, slip the clutch & feet down......It was a bitch in a few places but not impossible to get to work & back.


There was a Karma Kicking thread on here a week ago or so where someone axed about riding in snow.
I only said don't do it unless you have spikes in your tyres and boots.

Maybe the message was lost in translation BUT.... Riding in 'SNOW' is not that much of an issue. It is similar to riding over sand.
The ISSUE is once the snow compacts it becomes ice. It is impossible to get any grip on ice No matter who you are.
For those conditions you need very slow speeds because you will fall off.
You won't have any braking, steering to control the bike.
And even if you have your feet down they will simply slide over the ice.
On a medium weight bike you will really struggle to remain safe/composed for most circumstances.

Having bike gear, rucksack helmet on all affects one's agility too so if you have a small slip it is not easy to recovery.

If you meet a gradient covered in ice you will NOT manage to traverse without dismounting and walking the beast or possibly picking a path through ice patches. (Which other traffic probably won't allow.)

Off the 'beaten' track snow riding is much easier as the snow may not be as compacted so you can have excellent traction.

A 'standard equipped' motorbike on Ice? Forget it.

If you are into it/canny contain yersel then fit studs. It's not that difficult and studs mixed with ice makes Winter fun.

https://www.aerostich.com/self-tapping-carbide-tire-studs.html

They won't last long on 'bare' roads and they may earn you a tug from the Polis.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My next mod.

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