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i.p.phrealy
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: When should you replace your chain? Reply with quote

Just asking as I think mine has seen better days and I'm going to order an new one on pay day.

When do you swap it? when you can't adjust the slack out of it anymore? when it's dropping off the sprocket? when you feel like it?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the sprockets are worn down or when the chain has stretched too much.

You need to replace both the chain and sprockets at the same time, just incase you didn't know.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
Just asking as I think mine has seen better days and I'm going to order an new one on pay day.

When do you swap it? when you can't adjust the slack out of it anymore? when it's dropping off the sprocket? when you feel like it?


You measure the chain over a certain number of pins and check the stretch.

For example, a 520 chain has a pitch of 15.875mm. If it's an o-ring chain your limit of stretch is 1%, non o-ring is 2%

You measure 16 pins. 15.875 x 16 = 254mm

1% of 254 is 2.54mm, round it down to 2.5 and add that to the 254 gives you 256.5mm maximum over 16 pins. Anything outside that and the chain is deemed worn out.

4xx series chain is 12.7mm pitch so measure 20 links
5xx series chain is 15.875mm pitch so measure 16 links

Same measurement for both of these as the new length for both is the same (254mm) and worn-out length is 256.5mm

6xx series chain is 19.05mm pitch so measure 20 links for 381 new length and 384.8mm as your worn-out length.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 18 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm going for a better chain next time, current one has only lasted a year though it's prob had some abuse, the sprockets still look nearly new
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, I didn't think there'd be a scientific way of doing it, I thought most people would think "That looks a bit shit" and do it. Laughing

based on your measurements i was right to get a new one though!
when it gets here I figured the best way to replace it is to split the old chain at the splitlink, attach the new chain to the old chain and pass that through, to save removing the front sprocket cover.

although I'll have the spanners ready to get that cover off as knowing my luck that won't work!
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would be better off removing the chain entirely and the sprocket cover.

This will allow you to check both sprockets for wear, if the teeth look uneven or worn they will need to be replaced. Ideally its easiest to just change the sprockets with the chain.

I've done it myself and its not hard to do. I found ordering the right sprockets the hardest part, but the guys over at gingerparts.co.uk were fantastic help. Turned out i had ordered the right sprockets but wrong chain, the right chain as £2 more expensive and they sent it out without charging the extra. Parcel then got lost and they sent out a heavy duty chain and fully synth oil + sprockets free instead of the standard semi synth and standard chain.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I typically change mine when either its hit the adjuster marks or it starts looking a bit down.

Turns out that is roughly 10k
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 19 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
i.p.phrealy wrote:
Just asking as I think mine has seen better days and I'm going to order an new one on pay day.

When do you swap it? when you can't adjust the slack out of it anymore? when it's dropping off the sprocket? when you feel like it?


You measure the chain over a certain number of pins and check the stretch.

For example, a 520 chain has a pitch of 15.875mm. If it's an o-ring chain your limit of stretch is 1%, non o-ring is 2%

You measure 16 pins. 15.875 x 16 = 254mm

1% of 254 is 2.54mm, round it down to 2.5 and add that to the 254 gives you 256.5mm maximum over 16 pins. Anything outside that and the chain is deemed worn out.

4xx series chain is 12.7mm pitch so measure 20 links
5xx series chain is 15.875mm pitch so measure 16 links

Same measurement for both of these as the new length for both is the same (254mm) and worn-out length is 256.5mm

6xx series chain is 19.05mm pitch so measure 20 links for 381 new length and 384.8mm as your worn-out length.


Fark bru, do you do all that? I just see sprockets getting rounded, chain adjustments fore frequent etc

2o ooo km om this set. Almost time. No micrometers needed
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 20 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kradmelder wrote:
No micrometers needed

Indeed, just use a steel rule.
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PostPosted: 01:55 - 20 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On it's centerstand I check for tight spots..find it and adjust tension, then give the chain a tug at the rear of the sprocket. If I pull it back more than half a tooth I know it's near to changing.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 20 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can do this, it's time for a new chain.

https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/stretch_121.jpg
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 20 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kradmelder wrote:


Fark bru, do you do all that? I just see sprockets getting rounded, chain adjustments fore frequent etc

2o ooo km om this set. Almost time. No micrometers needed


No, I never yet measured a chain for stretch. I was just answering the OP's question.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 21 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before all this new fangled measuring calculus and a working knowledge of Fermat's Last Theorum came along;
the old saying used to be that if you could pull the chain away from the sprocket far enough to fit a pencil between it and the sprocket, it was time to replace the lot.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 21 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a good habit of checking your chain often will help you determine whether it needs a change or not. Today for example, upon cleaning mine I found that one of the links actually had a crack in it. Straight down to garage, who replaced the link (or something) for £1.30.

Now had I not noticed... Shocked

Besides, if you are servicing your ride at some point, the guys will most likely keep you up to date on these sort of things.
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