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PostPosted: 19:13 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

And all i need is your name, address, and national insurance number as well as your bank account details for making a one off payment of $1000 us to cover administration charges and a photocopy of your driving licence or internatinal passport.

(Read in a nigerian accent) Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 20:36 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We don't want our bikes leaving the country thanks - that'd mean less choice and higher prices for us Mad


That's a shame.
I was all poised to buy every single second hand bike in the UK.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjanda wrote:
Vincent wrote:
We don't want our bikes leaving the country thanks - that'd mean less choice and higher prices for us Mad


That's a shame.
I was all poised to buy every single second hand bike in the UK.


sure you were

419 ftw

scambaiting is cool, you can get these mushes doing all kind of stupid stuff out of sheer greed.

just advertise something high value on gumtree or bargainpages online and you are bound to get a few contact you claiming to be an oceonagrapher or some shite.

Any of you major trolls on here want to take up the challenge just don't forget to post us the transcripts.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm only looking to get a couple of bikes a months.
Seems no one out there wants easy money to take em for a spin and briefly check em out mechanically.
Never mind...
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My spam/scam sense is not tingly.

That email address checks out for other uses over the years.

Decent standard of written English and a 'business plan' which we know is already working to make money for many people

I'd be tempted to give him a shout if I wasn't 200 miles away from the location he was looking for help in.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers G Mr. Green
BTW I'd be paying for every bike checked out regardless of whether I end up buying it or not.
Was thinking 50 quid per survey, think that's fair?
Payment however you choose, I have a verified paypal account.
If you have the same it's the safest way to go.
Hell I'd even make it out as a gift so the swines at pp don't take their cut.
I also hold an account on fleabay.co.uk for over 10 years with a purple fucking star n'all. If that twinkling beauty don't convince ya nothing will. In fact I was going to target bikes on ebay auctions to start with. Figured best bargains are to be found there.
If anyone risks then it's me because any Muppet could take me up on my offer and clear off with my dosh.
That's why I asked for a resume by email, yet to receive any.
Can chat via skype too if you want to treat your ears to my "Nigerian" accent Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 11 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

listen you are obviously just phishing for personal info no-one is gona fall for it, most likely to try and hack paypal or run an overpayment scam or worse just outright identity theft so people be warned.

the next likely scam is the unautherised paypal transaction scam where you get the funds they clear so you sent the item out (in this case buy then send to the exporter) then within 90 days the buyer runs an unautherised transaction claim with his credit card company and the money gets pulled straight back out of your account and they have a free bike.

you can try getting your money back of paypal but anything outside of an ebay transaction and they will just laugh at you.

recieving fund from paypal is just as risky as accepting a cheque of a stranger for goods, their is a huge 90 day window for potential fraud with paypal, you may not know youve been had in the net for months.

worse of these scams in the uk right now is people getting your address having you out on a fony job interview or errand then just robbing your house.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are the bikes gonna be exported to?

What's your ebay user name?

What do you sell in such numbers to have gotten that big purple star? It's for selling lots of stuff and getting good feedback, innit?

Do you really not personally know a single person, or a friend of a friend, who could help you out on this? Regardless of whether it's a professional bike mechanic or an amateur, it's not like they're gonna be able to give it a royally sealed stamp of approval anyway.
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP - I'm in need of a subsidiary earner at he moment, and am based in East London. Give me some details that don't sound quite so speculative, and I may be up for this.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bloke is legit (very unlikely) either he will be in the county himself or he would have a buyer/exporter in the u.k. that could arrange all this and do these deals in cash, it's the only way to ensure no fraud but you still don't want to go aloe incase they just rob the cash back once you return with said bike after buying it.


In either case making a deal with local mot shop would be far better and cheaper, that way if the mot guy says the bike is good/roadworthy op buys it and it has a fresh mot,

if he recommends you don't buy it then at very least the seller is happy because he has gotten a free mot/ advice on what his bike need The mot shop gets paid either way so they are happy too.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In either case making a deal with local mot shop would be far better and cheaper, that way if the mot guy says the bike is good/roadworthy op buys it and it has a fresh mot,

Do you have much experience with 'local MOT shops'?
Some are good. Some are far from good. I certainly wouldn't want whether a bike could pass an MOT to be the sole deciding factor even if it was a thorough one. Plenty of other factors not in the MOT
Then there's that the seller has to mess about taking their 'bargain' bike there and waiting and so on.

Just because he's got someone that can arrange payment and transportation in the UK does not mean that person knows about bikes or knows people that know about bikes; why would you think that was the case?
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
OP - I'm in need of a subsidiary earner at he moment, and am based in East London. Give me some details that don't sound quite so speculative, and I may be up for this.


+1, I'm more central Kent, but have a "friendly" MOT station if you want a years test on em Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could I use a local MOT center if I'm going to be checking out bikes all over the Greater London area?
I think most of the bikes will be ebay auctions and it's unlikely the seller will want to ride to my mot center.
That's why I wanted someone to take the bikes for a spin and check out the general state.
I know sod all about mechanics but I guess that quite a lot ca be ascertained by a test ride.
Btw I only buy on ebay, hence my 515 stars.
eBay user name catherinewills1961 Drop me a line Mr. Green
The bikes I buy will be sold in eastern europe namely Croatia Serbia and Slovenia.
I'm amazed that some folks out there still think it's a scam.
I no longer live in London but have family and friends there so cash payment is an option too if you're in the sw19 area (southfields/wimbledon).
Ohh no, not the old cash in hand nigerian scam again lol.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In either case making a deal with local mot shop would be far better and cheaper, that way if the mot guy says the bike is good/roadworthy op buys it and it has a fresh mot,

Do you have much experience with 'local MOT shops'?
Some are good. Some are far from good. I certainly wouldn't want whether a bike could pass an MOT to be the sole deciding factor even if it was a thorough one. Plenty of other factors not in the MOT
Then there's that the seller has to mess about taking their 'bargain' bike there and waiting and so on.

Just because he's got someone that can arrange payment and transportation in the UK does not mean that person knows about bikes or knows people that know about bikes; why would you think that was the case?


I know full well an mot is not an indicator of a decent bike ( i am an NT class 1+2) but a decent/experienced tester would be able to give the guy the nod as to whether it is worth buying or not, that is why I said tomake an deal with the mot centre so they know exactly what your intentions are, not just sending to a random guy for a plain mot. Exclusivity and repeat custom will usualy get you a discounton a mot aswell at least it does in our place.

The point i was making about the seller / courier being aound was that you need to deal with cash in these situations because of the inherrent fraud danger with paypal and the like.

At the end of the day their would be no need for a third party to get involved if done through a test centre or even garage, the buyer could just arrange for the seller to take the bike to the shop for a mot/once over and just call the shop for a report once done.

I can't see many sellers passing uo a free mot if it comes along with the chance of selling the bike, And your arrangment with a test centres would not need to be just one place you could have them dotted around in different boroughs.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greater London isn't the cheapest area of the country to buy bikes.
Just saying.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put yourself in my shoes. In that scenario the seller would take the bike to the nearest local garage that he/she most probably knows well.
Even if they didn't that leaves room for the seller to slip a tenner to a mechanic who'd report back the bike A ok to me.
I'm much rather have one reliable experienced person do the test ride and price negotiating on my behalf.
The more I think of it the more doubts I have I'll find that sort of person. I'm thinking a good mechanic just won't bother as his time is worth much more.
I'd also consider someone with a passion for bikes and diy mechanical knowledge so long as it was someone with many years on the road.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was selling a bike and someone said "can you take the bike to be checked over at this location", I'd probably respond with "sure, just tell which evening you'd like it and paypal me the money for my time first". Some people might be happy to go to an MOT station when they're open for their already MOT'd bike to be looked over, but a lot wouldn't.

I would agree that London is a bad place to buy (though a lot of bikes in a small area). Also that ebay is often a bit questionable for bargains - there are some to be had, but there's also a lot of people expecting to get a lot of money for minimal effort.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

vjanda wrote:
Put yourself in my shoes. In that scenario the seller would take the bike to the nearest local garage that he/she most probably knows well.
Even if they didn't that leaves room for the seller to slip a tenner to a mechanic who'd report back the bike A ok to me.
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Thats why you choose the test place yourself and build a rapor with the tester, and if the bike does come through and it's a turkey you don't use said test place again.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're now going to expect the seller to ride their bike a decent distance to this MOT place, as presumably most won't be that local?
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 12 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, can anyone recommend a good mechanic in a service center in central London? I may take that route Thumbs Up

How much do you think a thorough bike check will set me back?

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PostPosted: 04:55 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

500+ ebay ratings... 7 of which were as a seller... 5 years ago.

I'm just gonna put it out there that there's no profit in buying bikes in an expensive place like the UK, then paying for their export all the way to the other side of Europe, to presumably be sold in countries where stuff is cheaper anyway. Seems like the money flow is continuously downwards...

How you gonna make the money?

I mean seriously. Exporting second hand vehicles from an expensive country, paying for their freight (bulk/individual?) to then sell them in cheaper countries?

Am I missing something? Is the British Pound now on par with Pakistan Rupees or something? Forgive me because I'm really not au fait with much to do with business or entrepreneurship, but the idea doesn't seem to compute at all.
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PostPosted: 05:31 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:
500+ ebay ratings... 7 of which were as a seller... 5 years ago.

I'm just gonna put it out there that there's no profit in buying bikes in an expensive place like the UK, then paying for their export all the way to the other side of Europe, to presumably be sold in countries where stuff is cheaper anyway. Seems like the money flow is continuously downwards...

How you gonna make the money?

I mean seriously. Exporting second hand vehicles from an expensive country, paying for their freight (bulk/individual?) to then sell them in cheaper countries?

Am I missing something? Is the British Pound now on par with Pakistan Rupees or something? Forgive me because I'm really not au fait with much to do with business or entrepreneurship, but the idea doesn't seem to compute at all.


We get these old jap cars dumped here. They can't be sold in SA but must be re exported. Places like zambia are cluttered with them. How to export from a rich place like japan to a poor one like zambia? It has to do with the road worthy laws in japan. After a certain age it becomes so expensive to keep a car on the road they dump it cheap.

I assume eastern europe like africa, so few people own cars and and thge duties on new ones are so high that the second hand market is very limited. Demand exceeds supply so they are very expensive. A loophole in the law may create far lower duties on second hand imports due to lower value. A local 2nd hand the owner has the original duty as part of the selling price.

Not sure why the cheap jap cars can't be sold here, unless it would undermine the local used car market or they may not be road worthy under our laws
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 13 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sa1988 wrote:

Am I missing something?

Yep. You'll note that a lot of bikes sold in the UK are already going to these countries... And consensus on this forum seems to be that It's the preferable buyer to have.
A mixture of the cheap pound and good availability of cheap second hand vehicles... More people buying new presumably.
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