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PostPosted: 14:18 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: What is an "Internet Troll" Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:23 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a sneaky emphamism for internet censorship and thought crimes.



Euphamised in politically correct language to disguise what the real agendas and real problems happen to be.

Consider:

These words:

Totalitarian state / Nanny state
Fascist government* / Government aid and bail outs.
Enemies to our profits / terrorists.
Allies to our profits / freedom fighters
Revenue/Speed cameras / safety cameras
Thought crime / internet trolls
Thought crime / malicious internet communication.
Re-education / torture
Emergency powers / enably act.

So rather than simply ignore such trolls like we did in the past we have to arrest them and 're-educate' them.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO Trolling the fine art of taking the piss out of someone with out being malicious.
It was winding someone up to the extent they would flip the fuck out.

Curse the media for portraying it as bullying, harrassing etc etc.

And because that pisses me off, does that mean i have been trolled by the media?
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
IMO Trolling the fine art of taking the piss out of someone with out being malicious.
It was winding someone up to the extent they would flip the fuck out.

Curse the media for portraying it as bullying, harrassing etc etc.

And because that pisses me off, does that mean i have been trolled by the media?


Report for re-education at the ministry of love immediately!
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
IMO Trolling the fine art of taking the piss out of someone with out being malicious.
It was winding someone up to the extent they would flip the fuck out.

Curse the media for portraying it as bullying, harrassing etc etc.

And because that pisses me off, does that mean i have been trolled by the media?


Dammit I have to agree, it's infuriating.

Also, you got trolled by the media, yes. But they aren't actually trolling, they're being serious, so it isn't technically trolling, they genuinely went full retard.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The media thinks it is someone with malicious intent, in reality it is a person taking the piss, typing something they do not actually believe to invoke a response.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgo19w9zPU1qb6t6wo1_500.jpg

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PostPosted: 15:09 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
IMO Trolling the fine art of taking the piss out of someone with out being malicious.
It was winding someone up to the extent they would flip the fuck out.

Curse the media for portraying it as bullying, harrassing etc etc.

And because that pisses me off, does that mean i have been trolled by the media?


Agreed. The media makes out all trolls want to destroy people's lives. But trolling was just about rickrolling someone, then going trolololololo and wearing your best trollface as they raged. It was about lulz, not being a malicious dick.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/trollu6864545.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgo19w9zPU1qb6t6wo1_500.jpg

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PostPosted: 16:03 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgo19w9zPU1qb6t6wo1_500.jpg

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Not getting quite the same
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What annoys me is when people think they're being the ultimate troll when they just annoyed someone by fooling them with a stupid question or just by calling them a cunt...

Like CaNsA said: It's when you take the piss or lead someone on without actually being malicious or obvious.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way it's going, I don't know what to make of it.

Forum trolling is simple, it's piss-taking banter.

Social media trolling I see as extreme free speech.

Offended by a burning poppy? Good. Be offended.

Must admit I'm not keen on silly trolling in the middle of a decent discussion, because that just shows the lack of intellect of the person doing it.

But any copper that drags somebody from their home for a twatter comment seriously deserves to get killed by a nutter with a hand grenade.

See what I did thar? Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
IMO Trolling the fine art of taking the piss out of someone with out being malicious.
It was winding someone up to the extent they would flip the fuck out.

Curse the media for portraying it as bullying, harrassing etc etc.

And because that pisses me off, does that mean i have been trolled by the media?

This

Trolling should be almost innocent, despite containing nobs and pedobears, should not be actually malicious, it should also be creative and funny and should wind them up without being direct

Difference between calling someone a twat to their face (malicious and uncreative) and putting sunscream on their forehead that says twat and letting them bathe on the beach (acceptable troll)
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Difference between calling someone a twat to their face (malicious and uncreative) and putting sunscream on their forehead that says twat and letting them bathe on the beach (acceptable troll)


Maybe for you.

I'd laugh at the first. The second would get you laid out.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:
Difference between calling someone a twat to their face (malicious and uncreative) and putting sunscream on their forehead that says twat and letting them bathe on the beach (acceptable troll)


Maybe for you.

I'd laugh at the first. The second would get you laid out.

Was a poor example
but lol at 'laid out'. Regardless of the conclusion that would come from doing it to you personally, it highlights the difference

I wouldn't hit someone over it, in fact you wouldn't even know until much later when you look in a mirror, so what you talking bout hardman Laughing

https://memebase.cheezburger.com/artoftrolling
for more poor examples
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: What is an "Internet Troll" Reply with quote

Ground Rules

Are you?
DO NOT USE CAPS LOCK, EXCEPT IN A CONDESCENDING MANNER TO MOCK THEIR USE OF CAPS LOCK.
Always strive to use perfect (or nearly perfect) grammar and spelling.
Do not directly insult them or appear angry, as this gives them the impression that they're gaining ground. (Note that a skilled troll can sometimes use this to their advantage with a sort of bait-and-switch maneuver.)
Tips

While the ground rules are important, here are a few simple ways to make yourself seem more intelligent.
Use '--' and ';' correctly, so as to make yourself seem more intelligent.
Base trolls on actual situations; Use facts to build up a lie.
To rebut an argument, break their post down into quotes, and rebut them sentence-by-sentence.
Use lists, ASCII diagrams, images (if allowed), etc to illustrate your point
Point out every logical fallacy you can find in their argument (e.g. circular logic, naturalistic fallacy). A list of logical fallacies can be found in Wikipedia
Point out the other person's bad grammar and/or spelling in a condescending manner at the end of your post.
Use a thesaurus to find big words to use in your sentences, so it looks like you have a larger vocabulary and are therefor more intelligent. BEWARE: Make sure you use proper context! For example, "shack" and "mansion" are synonyms for "house", but obviously have different connotations.
Cite your sources, preferably in MLA format, at the bottom of your posts. You may also try using Chicago style citations to backup individual statements.

Prolonged Arguments

Doin it right.
The longer you debate, the more opportunities will become available to you. Try to take advantage of all of these, as it will cause your opponent to RAAAAAAAGE.
No doubt your opponent will have 'moved the goalposts' (another logical fallacy, note this as well), and as a result there may be contradictions between their posts. Point out these contradictions.
If they resort to using abstract metaphors, apply these metaphors to something else, so as to make both the metaphor and the argument behind the metaphor seem useless.
EXAMPLE: "The universe is like a book, and God is like an author" -> "Who's the editor? How do we know that Yehova and the universe are not the book and Thor is the author?"
Fragment your sentences. A moderate amount. To emphasize an argument or point.
Use quotes--lots of quotes. Preferably from famous people. Better yet, quote-mine anyone that they quote or cite for something that aids your argument.

Getting yourself out of a pickle

Well, it is really.
It is inevitable that, eventually, you will say/do something stupid. Here are some things that you should avoid, and ways to avoid them.
Increasingly long, drawn-out discussions on theoreticals. This becomes especially common when debating theists, as you'll somehow end up arguing about things *within* Christianity/Islam/etc, as opposed to whether or not Christianity/Islam/etc (or whatever religion/philosophy you're debating against) is actually true. In these instances, when in doubt, say "prove it".
If you find yourself lacking understanding of the subject (or part of the subject), wiki it.
If you run out of material or can't think, use Google to find other people who have argued on the same subject, and steal their arguments shamelessly. Just make sure they don't contradict anything that you've said.
Now, taking this advice to heart, TROLL! DO IT FGT!

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PostPosted: 17:51 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:

Was a poor example
but lol at 'laid out'. Regardless of the conclusion that would come from doing it to you personally, it highlights the difference

I wouldn't hit someone over it, in fact you wouldn't even know until much later when you look in a mirror, so what you talking bout hardman Laughing


Yes it was a poor example, and in terms of hitting someone, I was thinking of one's own mates or aquaintances.

I'm no hard man, but if for instance I was stripped and tied up on a stag night, I would be round the next day to bray them one after the other with a fucking big stick.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Re: What is an "Internet Troll" Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
To rebut an argument, break their post down into quotes, and rebut them sentence-by-sentence.


9/10 bitches can't get enough of the PBPQR!!
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

golden showers

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodall57 wrote:
golden showers

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If golden showers is the best troll the internet can come up with, then the net is in a sorry state indeed.

He wasn't a troll, he was just a prolific and offensive twat.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
I am.


What? A troll or a 'prolific and offensive twat? Laughing

Edit: Merry Christmas Smile
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
What? A troll or a 'prolific and offensive twat? Laughing

Depends on my mood at the time, really Laughing
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