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 Posted: 16:43 - 19 Dec 2012  Post subject: Wanker 4x4 drivers |
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At about 2pm today I was coming home from school on my 125 down a smallish road when all of sudden this dickhead in a 4x4 reverses right into the middle of the road. I was literally about 2 car lengths behind him at this point and I had no idea where he came from, it's my second day out on the bike and so I have very little experience. Out of shock i pulled both brakes but more of the front and this led to the front of the bike locking up and me falling off. He pulled over to the side of the road and saw me trying to pick the bike up from the middle of the road whilst he was walking down the road in his twat suit whilst grinning. I was partly blacking out due to my head hitting the floor. It turned out he was going to an awards evening thing at my school so I called my dad and we waited for him to come out. It turned out that he hadn't even seen me which I guess is fair enough, but what pissed me off was the fact that he showed no sympathy at the time of the accident nor when we confronted him later. There was only really cosmetic damage to the bike, both indicators snapped and scratches to the fairings, also my helmet is fucked. nice gash on my leg too and I sprained my elbow.
Would the police/insurance see this in my favor? Also could I report him for failing to issue details at the scene of a crash?
Cheers, Ollie.
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Posted: 16:49 - 19 Dec 2012  Post subject: Re: Wanker 4x4 drivers |
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You didn;t hit him so unless he admits it to his insurance (Unlikely) you will get fuck all. Next time make sure you make contact. 
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inb4 bad karma, this will teach you for spouting shit on live chat and being made enemy by most the regulars.
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i was on way home from work thismorning and some prick in a giant mazda pulls out into the fog without any lights on. very nearly Tboned him  what's wrong with people????
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You know, I'm usually on the receiving end of alot of crap, so it's not often I'll dish it out without reason, but that really wanted me to make a remark about the poor lad.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt personally as I'm not involved in anyones disputes. But I couldnt help but snigger about it being along the lines of "Well I know people who can help give him tips and practice". I'm not going there though.
Ollie, back to the original question, yeah, don't bother with insurance.
Also, you may find you need to try and fit in more with people.
There aren't many uk bike forums where people are as helpful as some of them around here.
If i can make the effort, I'm sure you can too.
HAHA, I distinctly remember you saying what happens in chat, stays in chat.
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Posted: 17:17 - 19 Dec 2012  Post subject: Re: Wanker 4x4 drivers |
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| Ollie1995 wrote: | I was coming home from school |
| Ollie1995 wrote: | I had no idea where he came from |
| Ollie1995 wrote: | it's my second day out on the bike and so I have very little experience. |
selective snipping, but read those three comments you made, and try not having a teenage tantrum, defending your ire before you have thought about it.
You are young, AND inexperienced.
Incredibly inexperienced. Two DAYS!
Yeah. Bloke should have been looking.
So should YOU.
This happens ALL the time.
No, its NOT fair. But that's life.
You fell off. how much of your falling off was your lack of experience and basic machine control? How much panic? How much the short distance warning you had?
You should have been traveling at a speed at which you could safely stop in the distance you could see to be clear.
You should have been observing for 'hazards' OFF the road as well as on it. Which means, looking for people getting into or out of parked cars, the 'tell' of a car being started by the smoke coming out of an exhaust, of any other 'clue' you might have some-one might do something to bring you down. Pedestrians pushing a pram out infront of them; cyclist leaping off the pavement. Dog running out from a garden. Football kicked over a park fence.
Just becouse you are between the kerb-stones doesn't mean thats the only place you'll find hazards coming at you.
You should NOT rely on other people doing what they ought to, and most CERTAINLY not expect them to be looking out for you.
Car drivers look for other cars; they see 'car' or they see 'No-Car'. Bike is 'No Car' which they interpret to mean 'Space'.... that's why they pull out, not because they don't see you, but because they have seen 'No-Car'.
Those are the lessons to be learned..... here's the sympathy.
Dust yourself down. Calm down. Count your bruises. Count your blessings that they are ONLY bruises; and chalk it up as rapid experience building!
This is big bad grown up world, where no one is going to be looking out for you, refereeing the game and making sure of fair play. You HAVE to look out for your self because NO other fucker will.
As far as the 4x4 driver goes..... I drive a Range Rover, BTW thanks for tarring me with that wide brush, you bludy L-Plate loon you  Who ought not be let loose on the public road without passing a driving test first 
You didn't hit him, which suggests that you could have stopped in the distance you crashed in.... bikes with tyres in contact with road, and brakes applied tend to slow and steer better than ones with random bits of metal grating down tarmac..... had you maintained control.
He was NOT involved in a 'collission', so nope; I dont see that he has broken any laws not stopping or swapping insurance details, or that he is to 'blame' for you 'falling off', as far as insurance claims go.
His attitude? Laughing at you sprawled in the road?
Yup, erks. But you are now a sub-species of human being known as 'Biker' or a mad bastard that doesn't drive a car, and chooses to put yourself at risk wrapping your soft tissue around something metal and taking to the roads on it, where you ought to be in a car, and are probably a speed-crazed lunatic looking for thrills while you are about it, and deservant of all you get for being so 'abnormal' NOT getting a car!
He might also have been nervouse or worried, or listening to a comedy radio show....... of he could just have thought you a bit 'funny'.
Have you never laughed at some-one walking into a closed door?
Back to big bad grown up world; its full of arseholes. If you cant shrug that offm and take offence at every little example of egocentricity, then you are going to have a very frustrating life.
No, MOST people DON'T give a shit! Chalk that one up to experience too, kid.
Scrape yourself up, be thankful its not worse; learn by the experience.
And FFS go somewhere quiet, and get some bludy hours in the saddle PRACTICING riding, before you try doing battle with everyday commuter-shopper traffic who have a LOT more to worry about than cutting you any slack becouse of a satchel and an L-Plate they will pay even less attension to than they will you on a bike!
2 hours and CBT course does NOT equip you with the skill to contend with every day roads. You just discovered that the hard way!
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Just to add to Tef's post.
This is possibly the worst time for new bikers.
Cold, snow, ice, high winds, rain, getting dark earlier, poorly set cage lights and of course, arrogant, ignorant, flustered cagers hurtling everywhere not giving a dead rotting rotends backside about anyone else because not only do they live in their own little box but they are "busy" doing last minute christmas shopping as well.
In all honesty, i have a few months experience now and I'm still not keen on being out on the bike after dark at this time of year. Your on a 125 which means your headlamp is probably crappy as well so you really do need to get practice in quiet areas even if its learning to spot those darned pot holes and man hole covers and avoiding them in the dark.
being able to do that will help dramatically in avoiding hazards.
Ask a friend to come out to a quiet area and practice your emergency stop, have them raise their hand at random times to help and signal you when to stop.
That will help you not lock up your wheels when you need to brake harsh.
I did something similar but used my mp3 player and listened for "triggers" in the songs. i.e certain phrases or words that would come up at random and when i heard them started the e-stop.
Now i can safely perform an e-stop without worrying about locking up and falling off.
Hope this helps
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| Posted: 17:31 - 19 Dec 2012 Post subject: Re: Wanker 4x4 drivers |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | | Ollie1995 wrote: | I was coming home from school |
| Ollie1995 wrote: | I had no idea where he came from |
| Ollie1995 wrote: | it's my second day out on the bike and so I have very little experience. |
selective snipping, but read those three comments you made, and try not having a teenage tantrum, defending your ire before you have thought about it.
You are young, AND inexperienced.
Incredibly inexperienced. Two DAYS!
Yeah. Bloke should have been looking.
So should YOU.
This happens ALL the time.
No, its NOT fair. But that's life.
You fell off. how much of your falling off was your lack of experience and basic machine control? How much panic? How much the short distance warning you had?
You should have been traveling at a speed at which you could safely stop in the distance you could see to be clear.
You should have been observing for 'hazards' OFF the road as well as on it. Which means, looking for people getting into or out of parked cars, the 'tell' of a car being started by the smoke coming out of an exhaust, of any other 'clue' you might have some-one might do something to bring you down. Pedestrians pushing a pram out infront of them; cyclist leaping off the pavement. Dog running out from a garden. Football kicked over a park fence.
Just becouse you are between the kerb-stones doesn't mean thats the only place you'll find hazards coming at you.
You should NOT rely on other people doing what they ought to, and most CERTAINLY not expect them to be looking out for you.
Car drivers look for other cars; they see 'car' or they see 'No-Car'. Bike is 'No Car' which they interpret to mean 'Space'.... that's why they pull out, not because they don't see you, but because they have seen 'No-Car'.
Those are the lessons to be learned..... here's the sympathy.
Dust yourself down. Calm down. Count your bruises. Count your blessings that they are ONLY bruises; and chalk it up as rapid experience building!
This is big bad grown up world, where no one is going to be looking out for you, refereeing the game and making sure of fair play. You HAVE to look out for your self because NO other fucker will.
As far as the 4x4 driver goes..... I drive a Range Rover, BTW thanks for tarring me with that wide brush, you bludy L-Plate loon you Who ought not be let loose on the public road without passing a driving test first
You didn't hit him, which suggests that you could have stopped in the distance you crashed in.... bikes with tyres in contact with road, and brakes applied tend to slow and steer better than ones with random bits of metal grating down tarmac..... had you maintained control.
He was NOT involved in a 'collission', so nope; I dont see that he has broken any laws not stopping or swapping insurance details, or that he is to 'blame' for you 'falling off', as far as insurance claims go.
His attitude? Laughing at you sprawled in the road?
Yup, erks. But you are now a sub-species of human being known as 'Biker' or a mad bastard that doesn't drive a car, and chooses to put yourself at risk wrapping your soft tissue around something metal and taking to the roads on it, where you ought to be in a car, and are probably a speed-crazed lunatic looking for thrills while you are about it, and deservant of all you get for being so 'abnormal' NOT getting a car!
He might also have been nervouse or worried, or listening to a comedy radio show....... of he could just have thought you a bit 'funny'.
Have you never laughed at some-one walking into a closed door?
Back to big bad grown up world; its full of arseholes. If you cant shrug that offm and take offence at every little example of egocentricity, then you are going to have a very frustrating life.
No, MOST people DON'T give a shit! Chalk that one up to experience too, kid.
Scrape yourself up, be thankful its not worse; learn by the experience.
And FFS go somewhere quiet, and get some bludy hours in the saddle PRACTICING riding, before you try doing battle with everyday commuter-shopper traffic who have a LOT more to worry about than cutting you any slack becouse of a satchel and an L-Plate they will pay even less attension to than they will you on a bike!
2 hours and CBT course does NOT equip you with the skill to contend with every day roads. You just discovered that the hard way! |
Thanks for that , I do normally look for padestrians and vehicle that may be a hazard. However it was concealed behind a wall so I had no idea it was even there. Also the fact that the car was 2 car lengths ahead meant that I would of either crashed into it or I had to use excessive braking and bin it.
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