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Negligible impact on insurance, but a good day out. I learned stuff, particularly about reading the road - for me specifically, looking at what the council has spent money on, like barriers, signs, road paint, etc. - point being that most of these things are because of past incidents, and if you think about them you can almost visualize the previous accidents. Another is doing safe overtakes in the wet - pulling out before accelerating, and accelerating in a straight line, minimizes the risks of spinning up, and if you do spin up, it's controllable, whereas a swervey overtake that spins up will likely end in a crash.
If you ride in the advanced style (motorcycle roadcraft book), they'll give you constructive criticism about how you can improve. If you don't, well, that's really the style they advocate, and the day is sort of designed to feed into IAM or RoSPA, which in turn use roadcraft as their course book.
The advanced style is useful as a system for analysing dodgy situations you've been in, and figuring the best way to fix your style to minimize the problems. It's mostly common sense, but having it exhaustively listed is useful to make sure you haven't forgotten anything. If you adopt that style (for the day at least), you'll get the most value out of it.
The one bit of the style I don't really follow is straightlining to minimize steering actions. I like taking corners in the dry, so if the road wanders around, I'll follow the road, and if a totally clear roundabout has multiple lanes, I won't straightline it unless it's wet. Got me told off by a bike copper at a traffic lights, my one and only telling off, but I was having fun. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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| duncanpage wrote: | Are you saying that the copper told you off FOR straightlining or for NOT straightlining? |
He told me off for "throwing the bike around a lot, but not making much progress" (since we stopped at a traffic light, whereupon he could say something to me). I was following the lines of the roundabout in a way that maximized my fun, whereas if I had straightened my path but within my lane, as it were, I'd have gotten to the same traffic light with less "throwing around".
It's one of my favourite roundabouts that I do daily when it's dry, it's never had traction problems in the past 3 years I've ridden it, it has traffic light timing that mean you usually have a clear path all the way around and off the exit, so I take it as an opportunity to lean.
He proceeded to follow two bike lengths behind me, while I was going exactly 30mph (34mph indicated), until I got to a sharp left turn which I took at 30mph (still throwing it around ) but he took at about 20mph, and hence I lost him at the next traffic light.  ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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I wouldn't pay for it. It costs less to buy Roadcraft, and then get a free "assessed ride" with the local IAM or RoSPA. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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And now you've heard from one person who says otherwise.
It entirely depends on the local outfit and indeed who you go out on the road with. The Strathclyde one was massively over-subscribed, and turned out to be a (fairly good) lecture on what I already knew from Roadcraft, some non-committal Q&A, and then we got palmed off on the local IAM to do the assessed rides anyway. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 30 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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