Supercars in London

[mospeed]

Not sure if this is posted in the right place, but here goes ayway.
Just watched millionaire boy racers in London.
Not wishing to sound jealous or racist. But Arabs driving supercars in London, recklessly to say the least. Ok yes some of them were stopped by the police, even having cars impounded.
Would us bikers get away with it............... No chance.
Dont get me wrong, I speed at times and have a louder than standard pipe on my R6, but if you rode around in the town like they drive, you would be banned in no time.
Money........... The authorities seem to overlook a lot of it. Why, because of the money they bring to the local economy.
Get a bunch of middle class bikers meeting and tearing around the city, I bet they would have speed cameras out and prosecutions would follow.
One rule for millionaire car drivers another for us!
Rant over, but I would love to hear other peoples opinions.

[moppy]

Or rather they have enough money to not give a shit about the speeding tickets the unbiased speed cameras give them.

[P.]

Meh, money can buy you anything. I'd be happy in one of their cars.

[Derivative]

[sulphur]

It's not down to the cars, or their money. On that program it was down to the stuck up snotty residents who didn't like the "multi cultural community" thing going on. Fearing losing their neighbourhood to the foreigners.

Supercars aren't exactly the quiestest of things, anything over 3k rpm and it's gonna be louder than your average car at 6k.

Majority of it is probably jealousy. I'd be more than happy having that soundtrack outside my house on a daily basis.

[Tungtvann]

[barrkel]

Bikes get away with a lot in London. Maneuvers that would have you stopped in a car barely get a second look on two wheels. On a reasonably clear road, I might be doing 45, or on a busier road 37 odd in the middle, in between cars and oncoming traffic, even with police cars in sight. The little races you can get into at 50mph or even more through and past traffic, making overtakes then diving in to go the correct side of a keep left arrow, then out again for more overtakes.

Not to mention the filtering, weaving between lanes of traffic, drivers are remarkably tolerant and understanding, once you know how to signal your intentions through positioning and observation, not just signal lights.

I've even seen police lower their speed guns, seemingly letting me off for pulling ahead of traffic on my scooter, on particular stretches that have common speed traps, like the A11 east after the Bow Flyover.

I don't really have much to complain about in terms of over-policing of bikes. But maybe I fly under the radar a bit through being on an ugly scooter with a stock pipe.
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[barrkel]

[mospeed]

I totally agree with you Sulphur about the residents, but my point was really about cars v bikes.
Company director caught over 100mph in flash car. Fined + points
Biker doing same on Sportsbike. Fined + points, almost certainly banned, some are even jailed.
I have no issue with Arabs or wealth or supercars, just with double standards.
I too would love the sound of them passing my house.......
Maybe not when my kids were younger though......
Nothing better than a blast, but common sense should also be used.
These drivers didnt show much of that in busy 30mph roads.

[sulphur]

[Derivative]

Having watched the program, I don't really see any supposed 'double standard'.

The police didn't catch any of them speeding.

There's a road near me I could get to 100mph on with the CB500. I reckon I could go out there now and do it and get away with it.
I wouldn't because it's utterly pointless and there does exist some small chance I'd get locked up for it, but it's not like it's unrealistic.

They have to actually be there to catch them. Keep in mind ANPR and speed cameras will struggle with foreign plates.

Thinking back over my limited career on the roads (probably about 10k miles now), if I could ignore speed cameras and only had to worry about fixed patrols, there are very very few times in which I'd have been caught out.

But for me the penalty is a bit more severe than simply jumping on a plane and going home.

[Vracktal]

Watched the program, to be honest 99% of it is just them revving the engine and doing hard launches, although there is a GTR pulling a fully sik blud 4 wheel drift round a corner at one point.

The only people complaining really seem to be a bunch of dry, withered cunts from knightsbridge upset that the noise of engines is ruining their idyllic life for the two weeks supercar season usually runs for. Then they bother the police until the police launch a half-hearted "crackdown", pull over a few supes, impound a couple because they can't confirm insurance documents are valid, then get on with something else once supercar week is over.

Was impressed that a lad was making £500 or so from youtube by uploading supercar videos though.

[sulphur]

[Derivative]

[G]

[mospeed]

I think I should move,anyone want a lodger.
I'm gonna sell my house and buy an Aston Martin.
And keep the change for petrol money, and hoes, sounds like a better life than riding aroung here, constantly looking in my mirrors for unmarked police cars, with nothing better to do than stop bikes going 10mph over the limit, or having a loud pipe or the real serious crime of having a small number plate.

[krarkol]

Like someone has already said, they have to actually catch them. Not watched the programme yet but I have seen the cars they have and the plates are usually in arabic which I doubt our ANPR systems are set up for, same with GATSO's.

Also with bikers speeding they tend to bring the "you where a danger to yourself and others" into it when going over a ton even though I think a lot more damage will be done losing control in a car compared to a bike
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[Nick 50]

Have to agree with Sulphur. Just a bunch of snotty empirical dinosaurs living on the past and having a good old whinge.

I think the snobs need to be sent to Ibiza, Magaluf, Falaraki etc etc and see what Britain exports as "tourists" each summer and then compare.
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[jjdugen]

If you have not seen the program, have a look on the i player, especially during the last five minutes or so. One of these spoilt little pricks is a Kuwaiti, he's moaning about how shit it is at home and how he loves London, he actually says 'You can have Kuwait if we can come to live here!!!!'
I did a bit of a double take, and then realised that the brat wasn't born when a shit load of Brits, Yanks et al (me included) spent more than a year clearing Saddams troops out of his country.
We put our lives at risk, and on hold, to give him his country back, just so he can rub our noses in his daddy's riches.
I would love to see reciprocal penalties for these people. When I got pulled over by the (largely corrupt) police, they immediately impounded my vehicle and took my licence. Months later I had to take a local to haggle with the 'court' as to how much I would pay them. That fine went straight into the pockets of the 'judges'. A pox on them all and the sooner we get a replacement for oil, the sooner these people can go back to their roots, donkeys and camels and mud huts.
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[Supermoto_Fan]

One of the blokes was showing the cameras the menu in a club and said he usually spends around 40 - 50k a NIGHT in this club alone. People think they would blink an eye lid at a £300 fine? even a £5000? (If you can actually find anything for them to be fined for) I dont see how they could be stopped really.

They might be a nuisance but they bring too much wealth to London. You only had to look at the cars being driven about on the programme to get an idea of the wealths the Arabs have.

Besides, The M25 may be a "nuisance" to local residents in their villages nearby but that doesnt mean the goverment is going to restrict the hours it is open for does it.

Too much money tied up.
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[c_dug]

I work half a mile from Knightsbridge. Spoilt Arabs in their supercars are epic. They're pretty much the only people with those kind of cars that age willing to drive them how they should be.

Full revs on my cbr in first and second within 6 feet of an Arabic Mercedes SLR through the Hyde park corner underpass is one of the best moments of the last year for me.
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[Andrew_]

Wouldn't we all do the same if we had that kind of money?
I would personally give up biking at start collecting cars.
But if people are flocking from around UK to see your car, it is natural for you to want to give them a show and rev the car a little.

But the police officer taking that kid lambo was a tad bit cruel.
Making up the excuse 'sorry i don't have the power to make calls over in Qatar' so as a result he couldn't prove that it was insured so off with his car. The documents he had probably showed he had insurance, but you know most police officer are only interested in seeing the insurance certificate which he probably didn't have with him at the time.

[headlamp]

Last August I had a bit of a 'run in' with an Arab driving a Bugatti Veyron last summer. I was poodling down Knightsbridge on my way to Chiswick got past Harrods and I saw the car at a junction near the Mulberry store, waiting. It suddenly pulled out in front of me causing me to slam on the brakes and then he accelerated away like a nutter! I caught up with it at the next lights near Thurloe Place and pulled up on the left hand side and had strong 'words' with the driver.

The fella - clearly a young multi-billionaire rich Arab - was so humbly apologetic & un-arrogant, I had no option but to accept his apology and wished him a nice day! What caught my eye though wasn't the car but the watch he was wearing....the sort of thing you see for sale in the markets for £15 except I'm pretty sure this was the real thing...worth $100,000's.
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