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| andyj88 |
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 andyj88 Two Stroke Sniffer
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 Posted: 21:22 - 29 Dec 2012 Post subject: DADS! New rider and wont buy the right gear |
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Hi everyone. My Dad has recently bought a Honda Goldwing trike. He is completely new to motorbikes so he is relying on me to teach him how to handle it and use it safe but I'm having trouble getting through to him about buying safety gear. He seems to be more bothered about how he looks on the trike than how safe he is. I've tried explaining how if you're in an accident the dangers are still going to be the same as a motorbike when you come off from a bump.
Helmets he is fine with and understands. What I am struggling with are the jackets he looks at. He went from looking at leather and sheepskin flying jackets to old leather motorbike jackets from the 80's that have no armour. It doesn't seem to be sinking in why we have armour.
I don't want to be a kill joy I just want him to take it a bit more seriously and look at new jackets that have impact armour in the elbows and shoulders for a start.
Does anyone know of any old threads or youtube videos that could help put my point across?
It gets frustrating when he argues 'I reckon 90% of bikers don't wear armour.'
Hope you guys can help! I thought the parents were supposed to nag the kids about safety
Regards Andy ____________________ Suzuki Bandit GSF 600s. Mod 1 - passed Mod 2 - passed |
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| Poseidon |
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 Posted: 22:39 - 29 Dec 2012 Post subject: |
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This happened at low speed (around 30mph-ish) wearing a decent bike jacket with shoulder pads etc:
https://cdn.bikechatforums.com/files/xray.png
I was slowing down on a straight road, the rear started to glide out from underneath me and the bike just threw me off.
Doctors said I would've shattered the bone completely and I would've smashed my elbow into pieces had I not had proper armour.
Six months on and I play Ice-hockey regularly now. It's like the break never happened! ____________________ 1977 Honda CG125
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| ScaredyCat |
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 Posted: 22:58 - 29 Dec 2012 Post subject: Re: DADS! New rider and wont buy the right gear |
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| kernow24 wrote: | | ScaredyCat wrote: |
Show him the Spills thread then show him bEN_'s thread where he nearly died from a 30mph accident.
I broke my leg travelling at almost zero mph when the bike landed on me - that was a little cbf125 - imagine a trike landing on you.
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and a few mm of foam padding would have prevented those injuries.. lets face it, the armour in a lot of jackets etc is next to useless |
My post has nothing to do with armour and everything to do with what can happen at low speeds.
Andy ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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How come you have decent copies of your x-ray? Do you have private healthcare?
Andy ____________________ Honda CBF125 ➝ NC700X
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None of this is about what he's riding. I couldn't give a shit if he was on a moped or a gsx my concerns would still be the same.
Thanks very much to those who gave the advice and the links. He'll probably see sense by the end  ____________________ Suzuki Bandit GSF 600s. Mod 1 - passed Mod 2 - passed |
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 Posted: 10:45 - 30 Dec 2012 Post subject: |
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1. You don't need helmet on a trike.
2. A Goldwing trike weighs more than a mini, It's a barge
I've had 2 Goldwing trikes. Jeans and T shirt all the time it was warm enough. Stereo at full blast, brilliant.
Let your Dad enjoy himself and stop being a safety Nazi.
My last Goldwing trike
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kin ell!, that`s bigger than my house!  ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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Your house probably corners better too . |
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Oh you cynics. It's not got the handling of a Ducati, I admit, but it's the best pose machine I've ever owned.
It wasn't the going round corners, it was the stopping that had to be planned well in advance  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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 Posted: 14:17 - 30 Dec 2012 Post subject: |
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| pepperami wrote: |
kin ell!, that`s bigger than my house!  |
i really dont get them still only 2 seats no gain there fuel econemy down due to the exta weight on an already hevey bike, cant filter at all , wheres the benifits ?????
suppose you can blast village people from the sterio and shout Y>M>C>A every where you go oh the joys ____________________ always looking to buy bikes crashed ,unfinished projects,none runners pm me
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He's a grown adult and older than you.
Leave it, he's perfectly capable of making his own decisions and it's his own body.
Armour is going to make a negligeable difference in a crash anyway. Far better getting something comfortable and warm.
If I had a trike. I wouldn't even wear a helmet. Actually, I don't on the bike sometimes (fuk da police).
The trick is to not fall off in the first place. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 Posted: 15:04 - 30 Dec 2012 Post subject: |
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| mad4it028 wrote: | i really dont get them still only 2 seats no gain there fuel econemy down due to the exta weight on an already hevey bike, cant filter at all , wheres the benifits ????? |
Trikes. Just say no, kids.
To the OP. Sorry to hear your dad is an idiot. He's already bought a trike, so the lack of sensible thought on the safety issue is merely symptomatic of the greater problem. Can you send him on a course for the hard of thinking?
Zen Dog ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR (Dead), '00 VFR800FI, 2011 CBF125 Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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 Posted: 15:17 - 30 Dec 2012 Post subject: |
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| stinkwheel wrote: | Far better getting something comfortable and warm. |
Warmth, comfort and armour are not mutually exclusive.
| stinkwheel wrote: | The trick is to not fall off in the first place. |
It is worth sacrificing safety gear if it will actually help with this. I've ridden in shorts and t-shirt in hot countries because wearing proper gear would have made me hot, sweaty, irritable, distracted, and ultimately, more likely to crash.
I do love the feeling of riding without a lid too, but 95% of the time, when i do the mental risk analysis, its not worth it.
Zen Dog ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR (Dead), '00 VFR800FI, 2011 CBF125 Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 3 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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