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Chris750
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Starting KTM EXC 300 1999 Reply with quote

I am having massive issue Kick starting my bike.

The owner did show me what I needed to do before starting but I was really ill on the day and can't really remember.

I have been kicking it over and over again to no avail.

I have turned fuel on
Made sure in nuetral

Am I missing anything?

Is there any switch to turn the ignition on? Or am I just too week?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably no ignition on it. Fuel on, Pull the choke plunger up on the carb. Then find the point on the kickstart just past top dead centre and give it a good kick. should fire right up
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

delvey91 wrote:
Probably no ignition on it. Fuel on, Pull the choke plunger up on the carb. Then find the point on the kickstart just past top dead centre and give it a good kick. should fire right up


Yeah I've tried the choke. How do you know it's passed top dead centre.
I've just been kicking it randomly.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also when the owner started it he did it with the stand up.
I find it easier with the stand down- I looked to see if there are any sensors that can tell the stand position and there doesn't appear to be.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do never put any weight on a ktm ally stand. It will snap far to easy! Stand up is the best way. To find top dead just keep pushing it until the point it gets hardest. Stop and bring the kicker right the way back up. Then a good firm kick should do it. !
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

delvey91 wrote:
Whatever you do never put any weight on a ktm ally stand. It will snap far to easy! Stand up is the best way. To find top dead just keep pushing it until the point it gets hardest. Stop and bring the kicker right the way back up. Then a good firm kick should do it. !


Cool I will give that a go.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, do you thing I could of flooded the engine trying to start it with the wrong technique, making starting it now more difficult?
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 02 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That could be a possibilty. Turn the fuel tap off. Lean the bike on its side and the excess fuel will drain out the carb, do this somewhere it wont matter if you get petrol everwhere! Then haul the bike upright again and turn the fuel tap back on
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 03 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do,do not put too much weight on a KTM enduro side stand.Even with a high tensile bolt in place they shear off as if made with cheese

https://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/WiNot_Rhencullen/Workshop/Picture002-1.jpg

A replacement side stand bracket is only about £5 so I now keep a spare in my box of spares that I keep at home or take with me during an enduro.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 03 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like delvey said but when I had MY YZ it always started easier with a touch of throttle at the same time.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 03 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the KTM 2 strokes I've had, including the same model 300 have needed a bit of a blip of the throttle just as the kick is coming to an end.
While with a 4 stroke, this will tend to lock it up.

Try cleaning the carb out to start with - it's the end of the season and it's likely it's got lots of bits of dirt in.

My 300 was really hard to start when I first got it - much better after a clean.

Give a bump start a go if you can't get it going - it should be easier to start when hot, so you can get an idea of the technique.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still really struggling with this.

I haven't ridden it since the day I bought it and it's really annoying me.
My mate that started it the days I bought it has been around and niether of us could start it.
I've looked at the carbs- all fairly clean- jets clear.

I've had the spark plug out- looks O.K. Was sparking when out of the engine (although the spark didn't seem incredibly strong).

I've tried bumb starting it with a mate- still no luck.
It is a pain to bump as when in gear with the clutch pulled in it tends to still drag the gear slightly as if the clutch needs adjusting, making it really hard to push.

Now I have no idea if I am doing something wrong or the bike has issues- surely they cannot be this difficult to start.

Please help.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just managed to start it and went out for a ride.

I did nearly give myself a heart attack doing it though.

Once it was warm it was quite manageable.

I'm thinking of trying a new spark plug to see if that helps with the cold starts.

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PostPosted: 20:07 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard KTM spark plug caps are notorious for breaking down the internal resistor,according to www.ktmforum.co.uk

When I replaced the standard spark plug with a new NGK iridium type plug I also installed a new NGK plug cap and despite several attempts at drowning the bike along the Strata Florida track it has stood up to the abuse.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 06 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

To bump start push in neutral then wackit into 2nd. Ktm clutches always drag when the engines not running
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PostPosted: 04:24 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the ignition timing if it's that hard to start. I don't think mine ever failed to start first kick.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll check timing and plug/cap. It is definately harder to start than it should be.

I went out this afternoon and started it first kick. After letting it idle for a minute I turned it off- went and grabbed my jacket/helmet.
Jumped back on and could I restart it- no.
I gave up in the end.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 87 KTM 350 was an intermitenant starter.

Solved it the day before I sold it after having owned it for a couple of years - was a loose HT to plug cap connection. Cut the HT lead down a few mm and re-attached and all was fine.

Did you have all the jets out and check them all properly?
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 09 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
My 87 KTM 350 was an intermitenant starter.

Solved it the day before I sold it after having owned it for a couple of years - was a loose HT to plug cap connection. Cut the HT lead down a few mm and re-attached and all was fine.

Did you have all the jets out and check them all properly?


I had the two jets out I could see which appeared to be an idle and main. They seemed clear.

What made you cut down the HT leed?

I will do some basic maintenence and will probably check it has the right jets in also. AS well as new plugs etc.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 09 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you said 'seemed' clear, did you - hold them up to the light, then blow hard through them (lips sealed around the end) and check them again?
Did you get the emulsion tube out as well?

After having sold it on ebay, I did my usual trick of going over the bike and getting it into a nicer state than I had owned it in!
Looking at the spark plug, I noticed the end was a bit loose. The cap easily pulled out of the HT lead when I tried, so cut it down and re-attached.

Definitely need to properly clean and re-oil the filter if you haven't.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 10 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
When you said 'seemed' clear, did you - hold them up to the light, then blow hard through them (lips sealed around the end) and check them again?
Did you get the emulsion tube out as well?



Definitely need to properly clean and re-oil the filter if you haven't.


I held them upto the light, saw light coming through. I didn't blow through them.
I did get the emulsion tube out.

I will take a look at the filter.

The day i went to buy the bike I went out and bought the best 2 stroke oil I could find locally which was:

Silkolene comp 2 plus SX

When I got the bike the owner gave me the remainder of a bottle of Castrol A747 he has always used for it.

Will it matter if I change the oil I am using to the Silkolene when the castrol runs out?
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 10 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:08 - 05 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris750 wrote:
I just managed to start it and went out for a ride.

I did nearly give myself a heart attack doing it though.

Once it was warm it was quite manageable.

I'm thinking of trying a new spark plug to see if that helps with the cold starts.

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Hello,

great feeling, ha ?

Did you manage to find out what was the problem ? I'm having the same issue, i got it run afterall but it seems that something is not right
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