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PostPosted: 18:08 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't buy a cheap,set that like that.

Just buy the 1 or 2 indivudual spanners/sockets you need for the job
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats super cheap, nice find. Just make sure the you get the right size socket for the job. You might as well buy bike stands too.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

s1h wrote:
I wouldn't buy a cheap,set that like that.

Just buy the 1 or 2 indivudual spanners/sockets you need for the job


I still think that £10 isn't really much of a waste, also i swear you can't just buy individual sockets there usually in a pack?
The cheap tool kit will last more than 1 job anyway. When you compare it to what OP would paying in labor fees then this is a steal.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
I know it is cheap I plan on buying a more expensive set when I can afford to.

The reason I am buying a socket set is because I don't know exactly what size socket I need.


Take your bike to a garage and they will tell you. Have you got any mates with tools?
Service manual might state what size sockets you need for the job.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too sure about all callipers but the Nissin ones on my bike need a socket set and a set of allen keys.

Where abouts are you in the UK. If you are local to Portsmouth I can help out. I have all the tools here to sort out brake pads and have done mine myself recently. Its a simple enough job.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
I know it is cheap I plan on buying a more expensive set when I can afford to.

The reason I am buying a socket set is because I don't know exactly what size socket I need.


Check the manual if you can find one or post the name of bike and people might be able to answer you and save you some cost.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew_ wrote:
Take your bike to a garage and they will tell you to fuck off.

FTFY.

Any mechanic I know would literally tell you to do one if you went there asking what sockets you needed to buy so that you could do the work yourself without involving a mechanic...

That cheapo socket set linked to is not a good buy either, you can get cheap stuff like that from anywhere. Might get you through the one job but won't be long before you're buying decent tools, the ratchets for example are made of cheese.

You'll probably need a clamp to push the piston back too.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for quality tooling and willing to spend the extra cash, have a look at Facom tools or perhaps Bahco. I would recommend using a torque wrench, you don't wan't to strip the threads or over tighten the mounting bolts. A cheap 3/8 0 - 40 N/m wrench from Draper £20, Norbar £65+

That is a well priced budget set though.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap tools = broken knuckles... not worth it.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one of those sets for free once its utterly useless the sockets don't even fit properly and aren't machined to the right size.

I'm not saying you need to spend a fortune on snap on tools but just get the ones you need and build them up bit buy bit.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know SPANNERS come in sets covering a veriety of sizes TOO....
Those chitty sockets for under a tenner, are likely to split soon as you try putting brake caliper bolt like torque on them, if the ratchet doesn't shear before hand.
I would NOT waste my money on them.
For a tenner, you can get a set of half decent spanners; maybe not 'pro' life-time stuff, but ones that are likely to do the job.
And working on a cheese bolt chink; you want tools that are the right size and aren't going to slip of chew the fastener heads. Falce ecconomy buying cheap sockets, it really is.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal experience with cheap tools is that they either break quickly or break the item that you're working on, requiring a more expensive tool to remove it in the end.

That set right there, I've borrowed one of those and I broke a piece and broke a ratchet, I wasn't even being hamfisted.

I've also broken a ratchet in the Halfords 240 piece tool box within a matter of months. I was a bit tougher with that one, but nothing stupid.

My Dad has always bought quality tools and those same tools are the ones he still uses today. Much better.

They're a tighter fit, they round bolts off less, they break less, etc.

If all you're doing is removing a few loose parts or assembling flatpack furniture, cheap tools work well. But once you start stripping engines or tackling stubborn bolts, they'll cause you much more hassle.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy the cheap tools see how they go, by a decent set later if you are doing the brakes you also want, silicone grease, brake cleaner and copper grease.

Copper grease for the backs of the brake pads, brake cleaner for the pistons and grease for the pistons. Also Tesco Toothbrushes at 11p for 2 are well worth it for cleaning. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you afford £50? A friend bought this set recently and says it is great!

https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&productId=818469&categoryId=165572&langId=-1
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i45.tinypic.com/5156pu.jpg
My cheapo ratchet, looks the same type as the one in your set.
Just fell apart when using it normally.
I bet they're all made in the same factory in China, for 20p each, they are really horrible ratchets, few teeth etc, mine skipped a bit before it broke after single-digit uses. If you do buy the set, don't even think about undoing or doing up anything tight. You should have a breaker bar for that anyway but those ratchets just aren't up to it.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

covent.gardens wrote:
https://i45.tinypic.com/5156pu.jpg
My cheapo ratchet, looks the same type as the one in your set.
Just fell apart when using it normally.
I bet they're all made in the same factory in China, for 20p each, they are really horrible ratchets, few teeth etc, mine skipped a bit before it broke after single-digit uses. If you do buy the set, don't even think about undoing or doing up anything tight. You should have a breaker bar for that anyway but those ratchets just aren't up to it.


What do you need to tighten with a breaker bar on a bike Question
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's always cheapest with tools to buy the very best , usually good tools will last for many many years .

it always pay's to shop about , i got a facom 1/4 inch drive socket set for £35 , it can sell for up to £150 . you could buy a set that looks much the same for £3 but will it even do 1 job !

cheap spanners can snap causing your knuckles to burst Very Happy

cheap sockets & spanners can also ruin the heads on bolts .

buy good tools once & never lend them Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaker Bar to crack the torque, used when removing bolts etc.

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PostPosted: 19:18 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
Well what about this?

Spanners are not really suitable as the nuts are in quite a hard to reach position on the rear exhaust pipe in the way.

I don't believe the £8.99 set would just bend and break first use in my hands. Over time I can understand but right away I find hard to believe.

I shall order the copper grease and brake cleaner now thanks. Thumbs Up


pish , don't get draper mixed with draper expert
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
What do you need to tighten with a breaker bar on a bike Question

Nothing normally, but if I only had a cheese ratchet to my name and needed to nip a bolt up fairly tight, I'd be tempted with light use of the breaker bar over risking the only crappy ratchet I owned.
It just won't last if you start putting much force through it. They pop easily.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque Wrench wrote:
If you are looking for quality tooling and willing to spend the extra cash, have a look at Facom tools or perhaps Bahco. I would recommend using a torque wrench, you don't wan't to strip the threads or over tighten the mounting bolts. A cheap 3/8 0 - 40 N/m wrench from Draper £20, Norbar £65+

That is a well priced budget set though.


Why on earth would you need a torque wrench? There is very little on a bike that shouldn't be either:

a) quite tight

Or

b) really fucking tight.

Unless you're poking around inside an engine I simply can't see why you'd need one and if you don't have the mechanical sympathy to know roughly how close to over tightening something you are, step away from the nice bikes and learn to spanner about on a CG or a chinglongdong special.

Re breaker bars: front sprocket and possibly clutch nuts need a liberal application of elbow grease, a bar is certainly helpful there.
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