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Flatbadger
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: 1st mod! Fitting a top box.. Reply with quote

I have a new top box thanks to my folks, a Dr Bike 24l one which seems adequate, but I have to create a mount for the accompanying base unit..

Can anyone suggest a type of bracket I can use to attach to the rear bolts holding the grab rails? They have about 2mm of give so 2mm thick (or I could use washers on the front bolts if thicker is needed), and strong enough to resist the force of wind pushing on the top box without shearing or cracking. The bolts are 8mm.

The pic shows the area of the bike and the plastic around the grab rails which means I might have to file down the corners of the brackets as well.

https://s8.postimage.org/4x9jdvrat/1031.jpg

I envisage attaching the base unit either directly to the brackets, or bolting on some metal and attaching it to that. I've found this bracket for door frames which looks ideal, but I don't want to be inspecting them for cracks all the time!

The rear of the base unit can rest on a bit of 'Dual Lock' velcro stuff and a bit of wood in between if required, to keep the thing level.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome! (I might regret those words) Wink
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy or fabricate a proper rack and bolt it to that. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 26 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a rack and possibly a bottom plate to fit it to.

Look here :- https://www.renntec.co.uk/suzuki_motorbike_accessories.html


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PostPosted: 19:20 - 27 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick_Giles wrote:
You need a rack and possibly a bottom plate to fit it to.

Look here :- https://www.renntec.co.uk/suzuki_motorbike_accessories.html


Nick


Thanks, I had a look but my DR 125 SM K9 (2009) is not mentioned there. I have found this Krauser rack but I'm not shelling out over £100 just yet. It appears to be designed for one of their top boxes but maybe I can skip all that extra stuff shown hovering above the rack.

I propose to get a mild steel bar, 3mm x 20mm x 1000mm and drill/bend it to shape to fit between the rear grab rail bolts, incorporating a bit of wood to give it some extra strength. Maybe create a triangle from what I have, and keep it level with some more wood at the rear point, anchored to the plastic with dual lock pads.

https://s9.postimage.org/y1q3j2da7/hcpjsxbz_copy.jpg

I'll be Hammeriting it black I expect!

It may not be perfect, but I might have time to save up for a robbery/Krauser rack, or a nice cheap one might come my way. And I can remove it leaving no trace.

So Islander, would this be a rack fabrication?
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

wood? That will rot unless you coat it with creosote, and that would look bad. Can you not get a factory bracket for your bike? Also, try to find the brackets you want at toolstation or screwfix, far cheaper than the likes of Wykes or B&Q. I just had to spend £60 on a luggage bracket for my CBF but although pricey it's less hassle than making one up yourself.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is the post-xmas mess I'm in.

I mentioned to the folks that I could do with a top box for going to work etc, but not to worry as I need to figure out a rack first. Cue major procrastination after finding that a rack costs over £100 and they're non-existent elsewhere.

Come Christmas I'm presented with the fait accompli topbox. My parents are coming over (rare event) on Sunday with it and I just need to show them I have a working 'luggage system' so they can go home happy.

If it actually works that's a bonus. If not I'll remove it and get round to a proper rack later. I'll stick with bag and bungees.

I'm getting this galvanised steel which I'm going to bend and drill so nice and cheap, which is good as I'll need a hacksaw, a file, a chisel.. Doh!
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that's fabrication but how stable and strong it'll be I wouldn't like to say. Razz

Knowing how much instability a top box can cause, I'd be seriously considering a properly manufactured one if it were me though.
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 28 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Yep, that's fabrication but how stable and strong it'll be I wouldn't like to say. Razz

Knowing how much instability a top box can cause, I'd be seriously considering a properly manufactured one if it were me though.


Hmm, oh bugger - I'm going to sleep on it, the site which sells them says no orders fulfilled until the new year - I'll leave it until then and see how I feel.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 29 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just fabricate one and use it. So long as you give it enough strength and bracing it'll be fine. Can always use the pillion pegs for extra support/strength if you feel you need it.

If you can weld and have some spare steel lying around then it'll be reasonably easy, if you have to buy stuff in and can't weld then it'll be a bit harder but certainly not impossible. Just use bolts to hold it together and when its all together locktite all the threads so it doesn't vibrate loose and bobs your uncle.

Unless your going to be putting a LOT of weight in the box then it doesn't need to be incredibly strong, look at the manufacturers one and if it looks reasonable try to copy it. Most top box racks look like they would break if you put a twix on them so I really wouldn't worry too much.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 29 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay is full of them, just need to find something with similar mount points to your bike.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 31 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, just when I'd settled on a course of action - more ideas! Wink

In fact I would really like to learn a bit of welding. If there was an evening course nearby and I got to make a rack there, that would be the best result. I'll have a gander.

But for now, more procrastination. And I mean right now. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 07 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatbadger wrote:
Bah, just when I'd settled on a course of action - more ideas! Wink

In fact I would really like to learn a bit of welding. If there was an evening course nearby and I got to make a rack there, that would be the best result. I'll have a gander.

But for now, more procrastination. And I mean right now. Smile

Just read this a bit late. I have an old rack you can have if you want it, you can see from the pic that it has long mounting arms but you could cut them down. Might be pricey to post it though. Where abouts are you?

https://www.imexcen.com/uploadedimages/54567.jpg
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