gambling adverts

[elgard]

So the country is skint,alot of people are skint, Thousands of people are out of work or losing there jobs.

But over christmas i couldn't help notice that there has be a big increase in gambling adverts from bookies, online casions and fruit machine type apps for your phone where they say "Daily payout of X millions"

Who lets these arseholes put these on these adverts on tv to try and get the poor people to part with there last few quid they have.

I don't gamble myself but it just pisses me off because someone is getting stinking rich off other people misery. Then to top it off it say's gamble aware at the end. Like they give a fuck.

Sorry rant over

[The Artist]

Because capitalism.

[keggyhander]

[Polarbear]

There was another thread a bit ago about this.

There must be a huge number of on line gamblers to support all the sites, apps and whatever. What happened to blacked out windows in the local bookies and people looking as furtive as if it was a sex shop!
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[pepperami]

[oldpink]

I love when they follow the gambling / bingo sites just before or after the Wonga or some other payday ripoff merchant

Lose your money gambling then get a 3000% apr loan to gamble some more
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[Raffles]

[Polarbear]

Can't really blame her though. She's only making a living.

If these payday loans are as bad as everyone say's they are then the government should step in and limit the interest they can charge. That isn't going to happen though and I suppose if you have wonga & co. then maybe there aren't as many loansharks breaking limbs for non payment.

The trouble is, with the shit hitting the fan at the moment, some people have no where else to turn.

Gambling sites, payday loans, the lottery. FFS half the people in this country are banking on a big win somewhere to keep themselves off the streets.
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[oldpink]

personally I don't gamble, maybe the occasional pound in the puggy in the pub
I've only ever done the lottery 4 times (big rollovers) and maybe a pound on the national if I remember
my other vices take up most of my money

[pinkyfloyd]

In a similar vein. This is where the Portsmouth city centre job centre is.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/be1ly/pompey.jpg

As seen with the green arrow.

Now I am not sure whether this is a cleverly thought out set of plans or sheer idiocy on the councils part to allow the rest of the places shown.

William Hill the betting agents practically next door
An Amusement arcade next to that.
Opposite that is Bright House, that pay weekly store.
And just around the corner is a Post Office to cash the giro.
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[GF-91]

I don't see how they are taking advantage of the poor?
You either gamble or you don't, nothing to do with being rich or poor.

Just because you don't agree with gambling doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong.

Or does it?

I honestly don't understand how you can have a go at the adverts that have "gamble aware" at the end; when they are offering the service out to people who might need some help, advice, support or whatever. I'll bet the service gets used quite a lot and has saved quite a few people from getting themselves into trouble.

Also, you can't compare gambling to these pay day loan cunts.
They are the real ones taking advantage of the poor.

Oh yeah borrow 50 quid, and pay it off FOREVAAAH
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[pinkyfloyd]

[smegballs]

Financial darwinism.... people should be free to fuck themselves over if they want to. Who are we to say "you shouldn't do that, we know best"?

Personally I don't gamble, essentially a massive waste of money.

[pa_broon74]

Adverts on TV are basically a broadcast representation of the high street. Most small town high streets are dead except for Brighthouse, cash generator, the ubiquitous payday loan shops, ladbrokes etc, B&M/Poundstretcher/Poundland/factory outlet and the full range of charity shops.

Even in my own life time I remember local high streets having none of those shops.

Its just depressing and a damning indictment of what the UK has descended to.

Gambling for most I think is a hobby, I used to spunk a ton of money on cigarettes so I'm not going to judge, I just can't understand why you'd feel the need to do it in so many and ever more convenient ways, if you can't even go a bus journey without having a bet, I think you may have a wee problem.

There, I'm a hypocrit, I just judged.


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[chris-red]

I don't see a problem with it, if you are skint don't gamble. If you are dumb enough to think you are gonna be a winner you deserve to loose your money.

What next banning TV adverts because poor people can't afford em?
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[angryjonny]

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[fatpies]

Because it isn't social Darwininsm? If we did it would be no problem. But we don't.

What we have is people making loans who can't either by intent or otherwise can't won't pay them back.

So you get somebody who runs up £50K of debt...

What do you think they are going to do? Pay it off or welch the debt by going bankrupt?

If they go bankrupt the rest of society i.e. me and you have to pick up the tab.

We're seeing this in the housing market today. People using loose easy credit bidded up the prices massively. This caused the cost of living to go to the moon so companies moved outside the UK.

To bail out these irresponsible people. They put interest rates to 0.5% and are printing money. Killing pensions, killing bank deposit returns and killing the economy.

Thats not social darwinism. That is a lack of moral hazard.


If it were social darwinism. Bankruptcy would be illegal.
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[fatpies]

[pa_broon74]

[fatpies]

[angryjonny]

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[pa_broon74]

Going bankrupt doesn't clear debt, although funnily enough its a bit of a microcosm of the banks to-big-to-fail thing where if you have enough debt then it will mostly be written off.

Its not true to say however if you go bankrupt unsecured debt is cancelled, its not, the lender just goes on the list of creditors to be paid from assets not already used as security.

Someone with say, £30k's worth of unsecured debt, with a decent credit score and the where-with-all to service the debt wouldn't be allowed to go bankrupt, its not something you can just do when you feel like it. There are products out there to restructure debt, but that is just a Financial Advisor negotiating on your behalf with some legal protection in place.

I don't think the government did push all debt, just mortgage debt. I can't remember the name of the policy, I'm sure its a conservative thing... Its about tying people to property and loading on contractual responsibility. Government benefits because it ties you down and keeps you servile (the more you have, the more you have to lose. Like giving prisoners TV's so if they kick off they can be taken away.)

The banks on the otherhand profit handsomely out of it.

You're totally right about borrowing masking true income and the value of money, its a vicious circle and they've fucked it up in a most universal way.


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[smegballs]

The whole "down with capitalism, no bank bailouts" thing makes me laugh.

As if govt selectively subsidising failing businesses isn't the total anti-thesis of free-market thinking.