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shawy
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: which bike Reply with quote

Hi all im chris wife bought me my intensive course for my xmas present.
not sure on what bike to get as we have always wanted to do a bit of traveling so i need a bike to carry 2 people i am big built. so will be me and the wife and boxes on the back. is a 600 powerfull enough or do i need bigger which model? Confused
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So have you passed now?

600 isn't all that once you get used to it Thumbs Up

Looking for luggage and doing touring? Triumph Tiger or VFR800 would be nice (my opinion anyway)
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

vfr800 as paddy says, sounds ideal. hard luggage easily available, plenty of power, reliable and sounds nice with race cans Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: which bike Reply with quote

thanks for replies paddy no i have not passed yet but need to start looking as it wont be long hopefully two weeks.

have seen a cbr 600 quiet nice and also seen an thunderace 1000 which is very nice but do likethe bandit 1200
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You now have 3 votes for the VFR Thumbs Up Big enough to cope well 2 up and not a bad choice for a first big bike.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITM Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of travelling?

To/from hotels etc. on good roads or camping with some less than perfect roads?

If the former look at the Deauville or Pan or maybe a Divvy 900 if the latter the TransAlp or F650GS.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: which bike Reply with quote

I would mainly be doing south france spain portugal maybe but alot in this country.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a dealer and sit your fine ass on as many bikes as possible. Compare looks/comfort. ANY modern 600+ can take 2 up and go to Transilvania and back, depending on your skills and mechanical condition.

If you can handle the weight, I'd go for a Deauville for comfort and VFR for excitement Smile
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

After many years of out and out tourers I am now quite into the adventure bikes with luggage as tourers. I find I ride a bit slower and enjoy the countryside a bit more than I did on fully faired mile eaters. Adventure bikes are so comfortable as well Thumbs Up

On the other hand I might just be getting old. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, umm, budget? Probably the most important factor in your decision making.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
ITM Rolling Eyes


Jeez shut up already, you're getting more annoying than him.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: which bike Reply with quote

shawy wrote:
Not sure on what bike to get as we have always wanted to do a bit of travelling


Why don't you go onto Google, type in touring bikes...then go to images and have a look at some bikes. Write a list of the ones you think you like...ring around a couple of bike shops near where you live and try them out.

It's the only way. Find what suits you, suits your personal needs, take the wife as it will be handing to see what she likes too, since she will be riding pillion.

See if you can handle the bike well with her on the back for starters...

Don't go on the impressions of a bunch of strangers to decide for you. You just need to write a list of your needs, and do your homework. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

License first, then bike. There will be many more on the market as spring sprungs anyway.

Now, are you really planning to do a 3 or 4 day 'crash' course, get licensed up, then pop the missus on the back of an unfamiliar bike and tour the continent? Thinking

You may want to dial those aspirations back a notch, get something like a Fazer, Bandit or SV650 and put some miles under your tyres. It's not hard to switch bikes if you fancy something bigger later.

If you're going full mid-life and fancy something new and big, then I'd mention the Suzuki GSX1250FA which currently offers a lot of bike for the money, including hard luggage and Euro-GPS.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
License first, then bike. There will be many more on the market as spring sprungs anyway.

Now, are you really planning to do a 3 or 4 day 'crash' course, get licensed up, then pop the missus on the back of an unfamiliar bike and tour the continent? Thinking

You may want to dial those aspirations back a notch, get something like a Fazer, Bandit or SV650 and put some miles under your tyres. It's not hard to switch bikes if you fancy something bigger later.

If you're going full mid-life and fancy something new and big, then I'd mention the Suzuki GSX1250FA which currently offers a lot of bike for the money, including hard luggage and Euro-GPS.


Very good and underrated advice from Rodge there. It seems to me that people always seem to buy cars and bikes before they can ride or drive and they just sit there depreciating and doing nothing. Either that or they just get driven or riden uninsured without a licence.

At this time I'd suggest that the only thing you think about is passing your test. Then you can take the time to buy the bike you want and you'll be able to ride it home straight away.

600cc is fine for what you want. 15 stone me and my 17 stone pal did 2 up on my knackered ZZR600 on a nearly daily basis.

Do remember though that once you pass your test you are a complete beginner who has only met the bare minimum standard to be on the road imo. (I know there's CBT but I really don't believe that is enough training).

Whatever you go for just enjoy it and don't think too much about what bike you want and concentrate on learning.

BTW, fazer or bandit would be fine for touring 2 up.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
ITM Rolling Eyes


I think someone is getting paranoid Shocked Gagged
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is ITM?
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
what is ITM?


I was going to say not what, who, but you got it right the first time...

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PostPosted: 20:11 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Roger has said is about spot on I think, I've been riding since ~2005 now, and it's not 'that' long in the grand scheme of things, some on here have 20/30+ years under their belts. Touring on a bike is something quite different to that of a car, and getting miles under your belt first is a good idea. Having said that, you still need to get miles under your belt.

I'd be tempted to hammer around locally and see how you get on. Engine size - don't be put off by bigger engines, it's all about the bike. Long and short of it, any bike can bite if you're silly with it.

I've a Bandit 1250 and would recommend it, the handling hardly changes when you have a pillion and it's not bad to get on with. It's a lot of bike for the money, and without doubt is more forgiving than my sports 600 - short of being stupid with the throttle on cold/wet days, but that's just down to the torque the engine kicks out. I'd liken the difference in car terms as something like a Caterham to a large engined BMW/Mercedes Diesel, both are quick, but in very different ways.

I'd get your test passed, see how you get on, and maybe find some destinations that aren't too far from home - gradually increase them, learn your gear, learn what you can comfortably walk around in, but is safe to ride with, what feels good on the bike, what you need to charge phones etc etc... Basically, it's a different way of traveling and requires different planning to a car journey.

Anyway, I hope you have fun with it, It's a fun thing, but take the time to get used to it.
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shawy
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: which bike Reply with quote

hi all thanks for your replies.
cheers roger great advise but i aint a novice have been riding for a while aprillia 660 but not legaly silly me. but doing the right thing now.
Have actualy just been to look at a vfr750 which seems ok a mate recomened a vfr 800 but found a 750.
also will be touring this country before i take on the continent.
any feedback from you guys on the vfr?
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 13 Jan 2013    Post subject: Re: which bike Reply with quote

shawy wrote:
any feedback from you guys on the vfr?


They're brilliant. (From a completely unbiased perspective obviously)

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