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magos
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: cbf125 with 60k kms! Reply with quote

Hello all,

I have recently found a honda cbf125, model 2009 with 60,000 kilometres (more than 80kms per day). Normally, I wouldn't think of buying a bike 125cc bike with that many kilometres but the price is really appealing, its condition is impeccable and from what I hear the cbf125 is of good quality.

What do you think? Does it have a chance to last for a couple of years more?

Thanks
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats OK. Got a 2007 Varadero 125 with 71,900 miles on it and its still going strong Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's been serviced properly and the engine still sounds nice and sweet then go for it Smile
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for your answers. Any advice on what should I check before buying it? Any common problems of the model?
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

magos wrote:
Thanks guys for your answers. Any advice on what should I check before buying it? Any common problems of the model?


Check to see if the fuel pump was changed under warranty - Due to the mileage I'd expect it to have happend already but it's worth asking.


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PostPosted: 22:59 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over 70k on the hornet and it sounds fine (now its running)
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 12 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will ask for the service manual. I doubt though that he did all 15 services (I think I read that it needs one every 4000 kms). Well, at least now I know that high mileage with most honda bikes is not an issue.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK guys, I eventually put my self in a dilemma here. Though I am still considering the 2009 Honda cbf with the 60K kms, at the same price I have found a 2006 Yamaha ybr 125 with 20k. Appearance wise I prefer the Yamaha and as I read they both seem to be equally good (or equally bad) bikes. So Yamaha would be my definite choice. The problem is that the Yamaha bike sits in a garage for the last year. Moreover, the guy won't let me test-drive it since it has no insurance. The Honda on the other hand is in full use. What do you suggest?

PS. They both seem to run properly, but none has a service history, though the owners say the did everything, I imagine at a local workshop.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden both. Neither seem appealing or none appealing over the other. Like you I prefer the stylings of the Yzf.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the asking price? both are good learner bikes, but they are made to a budget, they are not the best. You can't compare big bikes to small, they are not made to the same standard! For high milage you should check what parts will need replacing.. tires, chain/sprockets, fork seals, head/wheel bearings. It took a lot of effort to keep my CG125 roadworthy after 40k miles. CBR600 takes no effort except when I crash her Laughing


I dislike drum brakes becuase once the drum is worn, you need a new wheel. On my CG125 that was around 40k miles. It does not cost much to make a disk brake, they just cut every cost they could, so I refuse to buy a bike made with that design philosophy, unless its really cheap.


Would recommend the chinese Sinnis Stealth 125. Its not perfect but it does have a proper rear disc brake that should last the life of bike with little maintence. The tank is the same size as proper bike, so it feels more like one. It also has wider 140mm rear tire, YBR is 90mm Laughing 140mm gives the option of stickier radial tires.

The last reason to buy chinese is cost, this 2009 bike was £200. I spent some money on parts but I belive its now a better bike than if I got the £1250 CBR125.
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magos
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In British pounds it would be something like 650 pounds. Indeed, I wouldn't like to pay another 500 pounds just to keep it running. Anyway, in this price range I could get either one of these two or a Daelim roadwin. Honestly, I tested it a couple of days ago and it seemed like a rolling bucket. At least quality wise. Whereas the quality of both the ybr and the cbf seems far better.

The sinnis you mentioned, doesn't seem to exist in Spain.
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PostPosted: 03:09 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of Daelim, but they look ok. Interesting to see they have 250cc bikes. All 125's are rolling buckets Laughing

Sinnis is one importer, its also known as "Qingqi 125-2d"
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=qingqi+125-2d&tbm=isch
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never heard of Daelim, but they look ok. Interesting to see they have 250cc bikes. All 125's are rolling buckets


From the performance point of view, indeed they are all rolling buckets, though this Daelim also felt like one. It appears to have a higher horsepower (15hp, though couldn't find it formally written) but it felt like a plastic toy.

Anyway, I am looking for a cheap and economical commuter that will be reliable for the next at least 2-3 years, without having to go to the mechanic every other day.
In terms of performance, I have been riding a cb400 for a while so none of these bikes will really satisfy me. I will be quite satisfied though, to go from 30MPG to 100MPG. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a faster engine CBR/YZF have more horses, but the engine still feels like its made of plastic compared to a 600.

Id go for a 250/300 twin. waiting for a cheap one on ebay.

400 should get more than 30mpg Laughing even my 600 gets 45.


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PostPosted: 13:05 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go for the YBR. There have been far too many issues reported with CBFs. Although if it's done that distance, then it's likely to have been well looked after.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id go for the ybr. Great bikes, had mine since new 8 months ago and touching 10,000 miles now, not a single problem. Aslong as its been serviced regular it will last a lifetime. Hoping to get 100k out of mine Laughing. Have heard of a few problems with the cbf's, thats my opinion but each to their own. Only you know which bike you want Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 19 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

60,000 km is only like 35k ish miles which is nothing for a Honda engine aslong as its been looked after
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 21 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all guys for your answers, I am not getting either the cbf or the ybr, since both guys didn't show up (!) to the appointment we had to see the bike (in two different occasions). I think for a 125 and especially these kind of bikes the individual sellers are not very reliable so I will maybe try a professional this time.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 21 Jan 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMCpro wrote:
60,000 km is only like 35k ish miles which is nothing for a Honda engine aslong as its been looked after

I'm sure their marketing division will be delighted to hear that. Wink

Leaving aside the fuel pump issue:

Burning through its oil and seizing between scheduled services.

Valves seized at 10,000 miles, replacement engine smoking by 20,000 miles

I'm sure most of them are fine, but their Indian factory appears to be letting bikes out now that wouldn't have passed muster in the Before Times.
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