What is wrong with this bike?

[Spudly]

Looking at the listing and the photos, this looks like a really clean and good looking example of a Diversion.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-OTHER-/190781131269?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2c6b710a05

Why is it so cheap? I can't see anything obvious.
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[yen_powell]

I don't think that's cheap for a 19 year old bike.
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[nowhere.elysium]

For a Divvy, that's an extortionate price. Especially given that it's knocking on for 20 years old.
This one's currently at £320
This one's at £410 at the moment
This one's £795 on a classified
Another classified, at £900
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[Frost]

Divvys are always cheap. Not cause they're totally shit, nor for their reliability or build quality which are actually decent, but for their total lack of desirability.
Want a cheap bike to learn or commute on safe in the knowledge that parts are plentiful, get a divvy. Want to look cool, have fun and be desirable to women? buy literally anything else

[reed]

As said above, seems expensive to me
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[P.addy]

2010 my buddy picked up a mint (I'm not kidding, mint...) 1993 K reg Divvy.

£780

Everything from new, absolutely everything.

[Torque Wrench]

One of the first bikes I rode on public roads about 10 years ago, it looked gash then and it looks gash now, rather have a gs500 tbh.

[Dave-the-rave]

The price reflects it's condition and low miles. Age isn't important. If it's in as good a condition as the pics suggest and the 10 000 miles is genuine then it's a lot of bike for the money. A few quid could be recouped by selling the lowers too.

Also...a lot of these bikes have been well and truly thrashed by restricted riders. If the above bike hasn't well it's even more bike for the money.

Whether folk think they're uncool or whatever is irrelevant. If you (the OP) are considering buying it, take someone who knows what they're doing with you to have a look. It could well be a very good buy. Sometimes paying a few bob more than the going rate is worth it.

A 20 year old bike, even in great nick, can often need some extra money spend on consumables and perishables, ie brake lines, carb manifolds etc, but then yer left with a great bike. Some of the cheaper bikes linked above will probably still need some post purchase outlay and you'll still be left with an old rust bucket.

Depends what you want I suppose, but don't be influenced by folks on here saying divvies are boring, shit, uncool etc. Get the bike you want and can afford, and will enjoy riding and leave the others to moan about past bikes and dream about future bikes.

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[flumpy7]

My 99 zx6....almost immaculate (rearsets peeling) with 18000 miles was the same price and i overpaid. Couldnt be arsed to go further afield.
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[Teflon-Mike]

It is priced very high for the model, and one of that age.
10K miles is low, and it does look to be in remarkeably tidy and unmolested fettle.
At that age so many have been dragged out the bargain basement and tarted up with a cosmetic make-over, often badly.
After-market fairing lowers are.... interesting.... not sure if they serve much practical purpose, or whether they improve other wise rather boring styling.
Looks like givi top box rack, on the back, useful accessory for type of bike. suggests its had commuter use.
Very low miles for a commuter.... maybe it wasn;t a long journey, and only took it when the weather was good?!

For a first big-bike.... boring is brill. And the Divvy is as boring as they come, really. But good solid useful bikes. As a first big-bike or daily hack, yeah. AND that one, if the providence stands, and it is genuine low miles, and un-molested, and low owners... I would be very tempted, BUT realistically its a good £300 over priced. There's plenty of bikes out there to choose from.

I would go view, I think; it's certainly worth a punt. And if it was genuine and as mechanically sound as the description suggests, then..... I don't think I would be too worried about not getting a bargain, IF I was getting a genuinely 'good' bike for my dosh... £10K miles I would probably have spent more on petrol than the bike; so a couple of hundred quid one way or tother is small potatoes in the grander scheme of things; could spend that on petrol touring around looking at other potential buys, kicking tyres!

So would come down to whether I had cash in my pocket' how convenient the bike was, whether it was significantly 'better' alround packjage than anything else I'd seen; after seeing it in the metal, and then, how ameniable the dealer was.

Obviousely, my starting putch would be; "Well, its £300 over book price....." and see where it lead. I'd probably be happy to settle on a grand, if it was other wise OK.... above that, I'd be looking to the dealer to chuck in some 'sweetners'... warranty, gear, maybe later date servicing, I dont know, but something to make that extra a bit more 'palatable'.
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[sidewinder]

never seen one with a full fairing maybe that is why it's priced high?

Paid £700 for this in ok condition
https://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/sidewinder11/DSCF0202.jpg
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[Stalk]

Fork gaiters are not standard, could be covering up something rusty.

[lilredmachine]

Mine was 400 quid with 20k on the clock.

https://img838.imageshack.us/img838/962/15696410151273147453485.jpg

Are we all ignoring the fact that this one has a crumpled, rusty can and wears crash damage in the photo? Maybe it's my eyes, but I fail to see the nice, clean condition divvy everyone is describing.

£1200+ quid is fucking extortionate. If they fixed the damage, it might be worth £700.

Low mileage... Well when a bike is 19 years old, whether it's done 10,000 miles or 20,000 miles is a difference of 500 miles a year on average. Hardly massive is it? Could do that in one trip up north from where I am.
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[Rogerborg]

It's not a classic.

500 miles a year. 4 owners. You think one of them would have put miles on it.

Aftermarket fairing on an air cooled engine.

Been dropped.

Is the rear tyre squarer than a Mathlete, or is that just a funny angle?

I swapped a 3 year old Chinese bike-in-a-box that cost me £720 brand new for a lightly dropped GPZ500S of half that age and less than half the mileage. Set your expectations accordingly.
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[Spudly]

Was filling in a reply earlier, but got dragged away.

To be honest, I had forgotten about the fact it was a 20 year old bike because I was somewhat startled by how clean looking it was. That and the low mileage took my focus from the year, not to mention that for some stupid reason, I still think of the 90s as being 10 years ago, give or take a couple.

I don't know much about Diversions, but most of the examples I've seen have been in dark colours, which seem to make me think of them as being a bit tatty, whether they are or not. The one I linked to is the first one which has really caught my eye, which I can only put down to the colour.

Odd, because I don't normally give a shit about the colour of bikes.
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[Polarbear]

It's got scrape marks and looks shite. I quite like the 600 divvys, but that full fairing add on is fucking horrible.

Overpriced from a dealer, leave it alone.
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[Spudly]

[Shaft]

Apart from everything that has been said about the bike you linked to, if you've got 1300 quid to spend, there's plenty of scope for buying something infinitely better than a 600 Divvy; a 900 Divvy instantly springs to mind...........
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[KLR600]

I never thought they were especially ugly, definitely not hit by as many branches of the ugly tree as a GSXF teapot for example.

I used to really like my old divvy, it's all about finding it's best angle (which just happens to be from behind, walking away from it ):

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/serenaur/Bike2smallerreg.jpg

For reference, I paid £1500 for that bike 7 years ago and it was totally mint before I got my hands on it with 1500 miles on the clock. I ran it for 3 years and put about 35,000 miles on it until the thrust bearing went in the clutch and got my Dad to sell it on for £500 about 2 years ago. It did everything I asked of it and didn't grumble too much.
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[Spudly]

I don't mind the way they look - I'm married after all, my days of impressing the girlies with rebellious wheelies are long behind.

They look infinitely better than my GZ125 Passive Aggressor too.

I'm looking more for a shaft drive bike, so as was mentioned, a 900S, or a Deauville, a Revere, ST1100...etc.

That one stood out though.
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[Shaft]

I'm gonna sound like a stuck record, but at that price point, an XJ900F would be the pick of the bunch.

Be quick though, they're starting to pick up and I don't think it will long before even pretty edgey ones will be commanding close to four figures.
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