Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


MottoBatt battery has FAILED!!!

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

woo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:14 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: MottoBatt battery has FAILED!!! Reply with quote

My mottobatt battery fitted to my R1 has failed!

I bought this battery from you lots recommendations!!

What happened was the battery was not providing enough power to the bike.
Only extra drain on the battery was my heated grips!

This failure left me stranded in Tooting again lol!!!

The bike started up fine in the morning but i stalled at the big massive junction at tooting broadway which joins with Garrat Lane and the bike would not fire up again made the nosie of a wankered battery.

when the recovery guy came he jump started the bike and it started then he checked the charging rate using his jump starter and no charge was being registered (but his jump starter to me looked inadequate at giving an accurate reading)
So i rode to infinity motorcycles in clapham and had them test the battery with a proper charging tester and it showed me that the battery is providing a charge but not enough charge

So bought a brand new battery and tested that and it was providing a full charge to the bike.

So my personal experience of using MottoBatt batterys is that they are SHIT AND I WILL NEVER USE AGAIN AND WILL NOT RECOMMEND THEM!!!

heard all the great reviews of them but they failed me!

turned out my mistake mottobatt was fine bike had issues
____________________
Elen sila lummen omentielvo!


Last edited by woo on 15:55 - 23 Oct 2023; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Wafer_Thin_Ham
Super Spammer



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:15 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuasa for me. Never heard of Mottobat. Confused
____________________
My Flickr
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sickpup
Old Timer



Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:22 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: MottoBatt battery has FAILED!!! Reply with quote

woo wrote:
My mottobatt battery fitted to my R1 has failed!

I bought this battery from you lots recommendations!!

What happened was the battery was not providing enough power to the bike.
Only extra drain on the battery was my heated grips!

This failure left me stranded in Tooting again lol!!!

The bike started up fine in the morning but i stalled at the big massive junction at tooting broadway which joins with Garrat Lane and the bike would not fire up again made the nosie of a wankered battery.

when the recovery guy came he jump started the bike and it started then he checked the charging rate using his jump starter and no charge was being registered (but his jump starter to me looked inadequate at giving an accurate reading)
So i rode to infinity motorcycles in clapham and had them test the battery with a proper charging tester and it showed me that the battery is providing a charge but not enough charge

So bought a brand new battery and tested that and it was providing a full charge to the bike.

So my personal experience of using MottoBatt batterys is that they are SHIT AND I WILL NEVER USE AGAIN AND WILL NOT RECOMMEND THEM!!!

heard all the great reviews of them but they failed me!


You really don't know what you are talking about do you, in fact you have absolutely no fucking idea at all how a bike charging system works and you are just spitting your dummy out the pram.

Well done Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MarkJ
World Chat Champion



Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:23 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you bought the motobatt, did you charge it before using it or just put it straight in and turn the engine over?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Fizzer Thou
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Aug 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:24 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had what I thought was a battery problem on my 2001 R1 (5JJ) and so replaced it,not realising that the connector to/from the rectifier/regulator was corroded,thus not placing the correct charging rate to the battery.I had no choice except to replace the rectifier/regulator,soldered the wires directly onto the R/R and filled the gaps with silicone rubber.This has worked perfectly for some 15,000 miles.

So,it might not be the battery.If the breakdown bloke checked the charging rate and it was low or non-existant,have a look see at the connector for the R/R.
____________________
Just talk bikes.What else is there?

Always have a 'Plan B'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MarJay
But it's British!



Joined: 15 Sep 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:24 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things:

1.) There are lots of fake Motobatt batteries out there.

2.) Sounds like your regulator/rectifier is fried. My Street Triple did exactly that. Rarely is a fault like this down to the battery, particularly not if it is a genuine Motobatt (which do have a very good reputation).

I've had Motobatt batteries in the last four bikes I've owned and they've all been excellent. Much better than the standard chinese stuff or even the Yuasa stuff you get from Wemoto.
____________________
British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

chris-red
Have you considered a TDM?



Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:29 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have Motobatts in 2 of my bikes, when the battery in my triumph dies I'll be getting one in that too. Thumbs Up
____________________
Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:03 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you failed to put fuel in your bike, would you blame the engine for stopping?

Fix your charging system, you chump.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

covent.gardens
World Clap Champion



Joined: 09 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:21 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had problems with my charging system that ate batteries, a new reg/rec helped but the alternator was still putting out less voltage than it should (12.8v at revs), checked the alternator resistances as per Haynes and not right, been meaning to fix. Most batteries would hate this but motobatt has been happy day to day with this for the last 4 or 5 months, imo its such a good battery it can cover over charging system problems unless they are really bad, all the tests show it copes well with undercharging/deep discharging etc. I stick the battery on a charger every now and then to give it a full charge, but its never let me down

When your new battery dies please come back and apologise to the poor motobatt, for you were expecting too much asking for power from a battery, when your bike wasn't charging said battery, thanks Wink

Hope you kept the motobatt as chances are after a good charge it'll be good as new


Last edited by covent.gardens on 13:26 - 01 Feb 2013; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Shinigami
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:25 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

agree with above sounds like your reg/rec or your alternator (i'll bet reg/reg)

Nothing to do with the battery, chill your beans son
____________________
Current: Honda City Fly CLR125 2003 Honda CB600F Hornet 2008 Yamaha FZ6 S2 + 1991 Kawasaki GPZ500
"Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sable
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Jul 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:27 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes MottBatts so good?

Genuine question, see em mentioned here a fair bit but no idea what's so good about em. Are they just regular batteries that are really well made or is there something different about them?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Tarmacsurfer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 29 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:28 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been using them for a few years, excellent batteries. Will not hesitate to buy and use again.
____________________
I'm immortal. Well, so far.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MarkJ
World Chat Champion



Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:33 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
What makes MottBatts so good?

Genuine question, see em mentioned here a fair bit but no idea what's so good about em. Are they just regular batteries that are really well made or is there something different about them?

They're an AGM battery, so don't leak if you have to install it on its side (Triumph Sprint 1050). I think you get more CCA from them too, can't remember.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpha-9
Super Spammer



Joined: 19 Jan 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:33 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol you tard

Motobatt are brilliant, not our fault your charging system is fucked Laughing

MarkJ wrote:
When you bought the motobatt, did you charge it before using it or just put it straight in and turn the engine over?

I did, worked fine
Even says on the box you can do that, although it's probably still always better to precharge them!
____________________
Fzr-600 1999
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

MattJ
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Nov 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:38 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know nothing about batteries so can't comment at all on that, however, when you stalled, why couldn't you just bump start it?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Shinigami
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:52 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've a motobatt in the hornet, put it straight in without charging as stated it was precharged. Not had any problems electrical so far

(original battery was toast from a blow reg/rec which the last owners attempted to fix VERY BADLY..they'd put a reg/rec on from a 125 and the connectors were charred as fook)
____________________
Current: Honda City Fly CLR125 2003 Honda CB600F Hornet 2008 Yamaha FZ6 S2 + 1991 Kawasaki GPZ500
"Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the Comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

woo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:53 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

your replies especially sickup are just pure lol!

cant remember the name of the thing that checks the charging system but they checked it and its fine, the regulator rectifier is fine.
they checked this all in front of me in the workshop

Problem is the battery plain and simple, maybe i had a faulty one maybe not, got it from busters accesories off ebay.
maybe it was chinese fake i will never know dont really care

i read the detailed review of the guy that tested motobatt batteries and other ones that he reviewed and it was a very extensive review and you lots recommendations inspired me to get the mottobatt battery.

well it failed pure and simple

i will keep an eye on my current battery and if the problem does arise again then i know the charging system is mangled

I did charge the mottobatt before use even though that is not needed

as for the fuel running out on the scooter and me not knowing, getting the scooter home and checking the fuel tank on the scooter showed that someone did not connect it back to the fuel sender unit inside the petrol tank hence no warning of low fuel which i connected back so lol, toys out the pram lol!

as for the rude tense responses espescially sickup just pure LOL!!!

i know how and understand how the charging system works on my bike.

the connectors are fine and the bike

Thing i did find strange was that they showed me the other mottobatt batteries in their workshop that have failed and been taken out of bikes which makes me wonder what the hell is going on as from that guys review the mottobatt battery is practically one of the best batteries you can get........confused i am
____________________
Elen sila lummen omentielvo!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

covent.gardens
World Clap Champion



Joined: 09 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:59 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it you've checked the voltage across the battery when the bike's revving to make sure it's correct (IIRC about 13.5v+ at about 5,000rpm held steady)
Much lower = charging system problem

And please don't say you don't have a multimeter to do this
Because ain't noone gunna tell me they know what they're talking about when they don't even own a multimeter/voltmeter Thumbs Up Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Howling TerrorOutOfOffice
Super Spammer



Joined: 05 Dec 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:03 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motobattbatteries.com/customer-service#answer3

Send it back.
____________________
Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
Singer songwriter, Artist and allround good bloke Listen to Andrew Susan Johnston here
The Harry Turner Project
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

MarJay
But it's British!



Joined: 15 Sep 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:08 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
Stuff


I strongly suggest you check again. Batteries don't just work fine one minute then discharge the next. I suspect your charging system has either died or is on its way out.

The symptoms you describe sound exactly like what happened to my Street Triple when the Regulator Rectifier fried itself. It did charge the battery a little, but not enough to prevent it from dying eventually.

Sickpup's responses to this sort of thread are always terse and unhelpful. He rarely elaborates on his thoughts in his first post, and most of the time has to be encouraged to actually tell you what he's thinking rather than effectively calling you stupid. This isn't the best way to conduct oneself on the forum, but actually he's right; I don't think the problem is with the battery, it's with the charging system.

If Sickpup actually was helpful instead of trying to insult people, he could be one of the most helpful members of the forum, knowing how evidently knowledgeable he is on general biking matters.
____________________
British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

woo
World Chat Champion



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:14 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bought a multi meter first thing when i finished work on tuesday and have been checking the voltage every morning before i take the bike out and every evening when i get home.

as for sending it back i honestly CBA it cost me £40 which i aint gonna cry about and im not rich just CBA

ive contacted Busters via ebay and they offered to exchange it for another one but i just CBA

if it was a £100 battery then i would be arsed

i emailed them to let them know that the mottobatt battery they gave me has failed so that they are aware that one has actually failed but i also told them that i will be constantly checking my bikes charging rate to be sure that it was the battery and not either my regulator rectifier or my stator, and will let them know after two weeks if there is any further changes.
They were quick to respond and very helpful
____________________
Elen sila lummen omentielvo!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Howling TerrorOutOfOffice
Super Spammer



Joined: 05 Dec 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:20 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^Agree about reg/recs being finicky in death. I had one that showed correct charging voltage when the bike was first started. After a few mins it would stop charging. I switch off the ignition and back on and it would start charging again. I'll add that I'd checked the stator's output (3phase system) and it was within limits.

It seems reg/recs are a very common failure on all types of bikes, so much so I installed a LED that glows green when getting charged and red when it isn't. At least it would give me enough time to limp off a motorway or maybe get home.
____________________
Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
Singer songwriter, Artist and allround good bloke Listen to Andrew Susan Johnston here
The Harry Turner Project
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

covent.gardens
World Clap Champion



Joined: 09 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:22 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
and have been checking the voltage every morning before i take the bike out and every evening when i get home.

What is the voltage across the terminals when the bike is at idle and at 5k RPM?
Honestly I think you should post in Workshop where you can be guided to seeing if your bike has a real problem or not... suspect it does and your on borrowed time Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

3illy
Renault 5 Driver



Joined: 10 Jan 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:11 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If you failed to put fuel in your bike, would you blame the engine for stopping?

Fix your charging system, you chump.


Clapping

If you couldn't get a boner, would you blame your penis?

Dance!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mr jamez
World Chat Champion



Joined: 04 Aug 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:24 - 01 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a motobatt supplied by busters which was DOA (well thats what I told them Shifty ). You don't need to post them the whole battery, just pop the plastic cover off and send them that.

More money than sense!
____________________
NSR 125F > BROS 400 > NC30 > BROS 400 > Trumpet S4 > '97 VFR 750
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 12 years, 273 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.15 Sec - Server Load: 0.6 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 136.34 Kb