my next big bike sv650 brand new or second hand

[stranger12]

hi all,

as some of you may have seen my older posts which i did initially wanted to buy r6 straight from my 125 xs , i need to get a bigger bike.

after suggestions on the previous posts , i look at all bikes which ranged from hornet 500,er-6 ,fazer and etc.

i concluded that sv650s 2003 onward ( new shape) is he one i like

first reason is the look, speacially the rear.
2. the handle bar ( i like the sporty handle bar though don't know what it is called.

3. lots of people seems to suggest they do well in track days



in about 1 month time i will be in a position to buy one .
brand new is around £5000. 2004 to 2008 can be found for £2500 to £3500


what do you guys think, should i buy it brand new ? i would have definitly if it had 0% finance but that seems to have expired in april last year

suzuki however have er-6f on 0% for 2 years with £99 deposit for £6000 but i don't like the handle bar ( standard one) and i don' t know if it can do well at track days etc


all suggestions and opinions are welcomed.

thanks

[biker7]

The Er-6 (Kawasaki actually!) is a fine first big bike but if you fancy a sporty riding position with clip-ons (that's the name of the bars) then the SV650 is the one for you. I had one before the GSX-R600 and it was every bit as much fun, just less power. Buy new is my advice - you fancy track days and no doubt some fast road riding - so would a previous owner methinks! With new you have no worries as to how it has been used. At £5000 it is still a steal! Shop round for a good deal - maybe even pre registered. Good luck!
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Fat Bob (2019)

[stranger12]

gsxr is almost like an r6 ? is in't?

that is what i want to buy next maybe in a year time after doing some training with the california school.

as owner of both , how would you rate the acceleration form 0-60 and cornering on each ?

[Fifteen15]

I have an SV650s K6 as my first bike and I love it. Imo it would be daft to buy a brand new bike. Buy an 08 and put the £3000 you've saved towards a house or somehing. There's been lengthy discussions about whether new or second hand would be better. Try using the search function
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[BigDan1190]

[stranger12]

the only thing i am worried with used is the chassie or the body so when i do 70 80 miles it won't suddenly fall apart . that is if it had accident and it has been fixed etc


in addition with new you get a i believe 1 or 2 year warranty.

what is the service cost on an inline bike? mine is 125 and the only cost is oil and spark plug

[biker7]

The GSX is maybe a bit more easy going around town than the R6 which is quite track orientated but they are both very fast machines! The SV handles beautifully on corners and the acceleration from stanstill is excellent - the v-twin engine sees to that! The main difference is that the mid range of the GSX-R600 is breathtakingly fast but then the bike is nearly twice the price! Having said that, the SV650 has a race fraternity dedicated to it. You can throw that bike into corners and the pull out of them in 2nd gear is brilliant. I took a risk and bought an ex Suzuki bike
( ridden by one of their execs I believe) - it had 300 miles on the clock and I got it for £4000. My local dealer has a pre registered one for just over £4000, I think, so you can pick up a bargain if you look around.
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Fat Bob (2019)

[grant965]

Get second hand. You will get bored of an sv650 or er6 very quick so its a smaller loss when you come to sell it on when compared to new. Also the more power may get the better of you and you may bin it, so consider that too.
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[biker7]

[MarJay]

[Seb]

[biker7]

My last 3 bikes have been new and I could not be happier. I meet bikers who enjoy their used bargains just as much. I have a mate who has spent over £20k on new bikes in the last 2 years and he would do it again. I know a biker who has spent so much accessorising his used bike, it is worth well in excess of a new one. New vs old is down to personal preference. Depreciation is irrational but for many, it is their way to happiness. Usually the ones who scoff at new bikes are the ones who don't have them. My advice to anyone who thinks it is crazy to ride away from a dealer with a huge grin and a spanking 62 plate....better buy used and save some money. My next bike will be new because I like new colours, new models and no history. That's just me. As for a fist big bike - if you think you are going to drop it, you probably will. If you have spent quite a bit on a new one, maybe you will try a bit harder. I once bought a used car and found out later that the previous owner had swapped it because a kid had peed in the back and the smell was always there. I thought how nice it was that the dealer had valeted the upholtery and carpets with it's lovely fragrance! After a few weeks the smell returned but it was not covered under the warranty. After that point, my cars were always new ones. I bought a used Harley a couple of years ago and it was perfect - so I am not averse to used, it's just that personally I veer towards new. Some people spend huge amounts on foreign holidays - I personally think they are a waste of time and money, but good luck to those who choose to do it!

It's not a viewpoint that is bollocks but criticising another's as being so, is IMO!
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Fat Bob (2019)

[biker7]

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The SV isn't a great track bike as stock, however may be ok for a novice rider.
Neither suspension nor brakes are great, but can be made ok quite cheaply if needed. Engine is bland and takes some getting used to on the track - on the road it encourages 'bad habits'.

For me a GSXR600 would be much more fun. However, as a first big bike, the SV may be an ok stepping stone.

Definitely would not buy new.
And yes - that 'trying harder' can often actually be 'better not try hard at all in case I do crash it'.
If anything, in my experience it's often those that don't think they're going to drop their bikes that do.

If I had the cash to buy new all the time, I would consider it - but there's so many other things I could spend my cash on!

For £5k you could probably buy a road SV and a second sorted track SV with V5. You'd end up losing a lot less money.

Certainly having a shiny new bike does offer me a little happiness - but for me, most of the happiness comes from riding bikes and as the OP doesn't have a massive budget I'd definitely suggest the money is saved for riding it, if nothing else!

[covent.gardens]

I regard an SV650 as a temporary bike as I do my CB500 and my CG125 before it, they are good for gaining experience and some fun on, but it's just not a bike I could still see myself on in a few years time if I had the money to upgrade. That's why I would never buy any of those bikes new. "It's just an SV650". Stop-gap bike. It's a sensible bike.

I think you will get bored of it in a year, maybe two, then what are you going to do? Sell it at a big loss and buy something faster, less sensible, and a bit more 'prestigious'?

It's money down the drain... usually is when people buy new. And the most common justification ("a used bike could go wrong and cost me money") never makes sense - the thousands you saved by buying used is always more than the cost of fixing a few issues would be, if there even are any.

[Rogerborg]

SV is one of the few bikes that I'd consider buying new, simply because it's so cheap, and my aspirations are so modest.

Suzuki are forever discounting or cash-backing or throwing in accessories or 3 year warranties, so you really could get a brand new bike for only marginally more than a used one.

Bearing in mind their recent sales figures, dealers have a lot of incentive to close a sale.
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[johnsmith222]

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Sorry, I should perhaps have clarified - quotation mark used as not everyone would consider it thus.

The SV has a very linear feel to the power delivery and engine tone.
This can give the impression that you should change up early and ride the torque sic* midrange; when to make fastest progress you do need to be revving it to the redline.
While the power delivery and engine tone of something like an R6 makes it clear that you need to be heading towards the red on the tacho for serious speed.

* And a sic for the sic.

[Slacker24seve...]

Y U NOT INTERESTED IN HORNET?????
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[_Troy_]

SV owner here. It's a temp bike, nothing more. But, it's excellent for a beginner. It is more than quick enough, and a beginner isn't likely to find its limits before you hit your own.

A GSXR or similar isn't a great idea for new rider anyway. Without including insurance, its quite is fast animal to tame, and will likely encourage speed and over confidence (not always a bad thing, but can be dangerous in the wrong hands).

Oh and don't buy new, please. It's such a waste if you have any sort of budget. Just buy very low mileage used from a good dealer, and you'll have all the warranty benefits without the depreciation hit.
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[Blau Zedong]

I'd rather have powdered glass shoved up my anus than ride an SV.

Sorry, too slow and made from bus tickets and tinfoil.
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[Paulington]

[Kwakki Si]

Buy a bloody r6 if that's what you want, don't get a shitty sv.
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[biker7]

The SV is a great bike - that's why they are still made after all this time. Most who have owned them loved them - I suspect most of those who don't, haven't! I ride a DL650 (same engine - different package) - again a long lived bike. Sales figures speak for themselves. Don't listen to the sceptics - underpants tend to get between their lips and the words!
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Fat Bob (2019)

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