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Klaus
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Advanced Riding training Reply with quote

Is it worth it? I am 23 and passed my full test on a 500cc last year and now have an old gsx 600f. The day i passed my test, i asked my instructor if advanced riding training was worth it. He said my riding was fine and he said i didn't need extra training, also the amount it would decrease my insurance would barely cover the cost of the extra training. I am still thinking about doing it however because it sounds like something i would enjoy and it would improve my confidence on the twisty's.

Has anybody got any advice? cheers Thumbs Up
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its worth doing if you've been riding for a while as you need to be comfortable on the bike before you do it.

Yeah, I'd say if you want to do it, go for it! More people should do it IMO.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I passed in October and i'm doing bike safe in April. I couldn't give two hoots if it makes my insurance less, if it does, bonus, if not, well i'd be paying it anyway.

I'm doing it because in my view you can never stop learning and im interested in self preservation on the bike.

Therefore your instructor is a nincumpoop
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blag yourself a copy of Roadcraft.

Take the bits that you like, and apply them.

If you don't like it, then there's little point in doing any advanced on-road training, because that's what they all teach.
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Klaus
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davenaylor wrote:
I passed in October and i'm doing bike safe in April. I couldn't give two hoots if it makes my insurance less, if it does, bonus, if not, well i'd be paying it anyway.

I'm doing it because in my view you can never stop learning and im interested in self preservation on the bike.

Therefore your instructor is a nincumpoop


Exactly, i wasn't to bothered about saving money on insurance, i wanted to do it to improve my riding and safety on a bike. He did recommend the Durham police advanced riding to me, if i really wanted to do it. So i think i will go for it when the weather improves... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a copy of twist of the wrist 2 on pdf if you'd like to have a look - PM me.

It's geared for track riding etc but I've found a lot of useful info in there for the road too. Nothing beats proper experience but it's worth a quick read. I think there's some of the bloke's stuff on youtube too.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 13 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon you should have a look into the Durham police bike thing, if not go back to see Bez, he should give you some good advice Smile
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 14 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Blag yourself a copy of Roadcraft.

Take the bits that you like, and apply them.

If you don't like it, then there's little point in doing any advanced on-road training, because that's what they all teach.


I agree with this, but it can be helpful to actually see someone practicing what the book says. If you have someone explain, say, vanishing points to you - and then go for a ride with them to see how they put it into practice (and have them observe you do the same), it can crystallise that knowledge better than simply reading it.

What might seem weird and preachy in print can make a lot more practical sense if you see it done in front of you.

Many advanced groups do free taster rides to see if it's for you. Maybe find out when you can go along and see if you like it? Or, as other people have said elsewhere on this site, Bikesafe is a great option. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 14 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazza M wrote:
I've got a copy of twist of the wrist 2 on pdf if you'd like to have a look - PM me.

It's geared for track riding etc but I've found a lot of useful info in there for the road too. Nothing beats proper experience but it's worth a quick read. I think there's some of the bloke's stuff on youtube too.


Teflon Mike's got some literature on his web site to 'view only online as PDF'. I won't name them, as I'm not sure if you legally can share them, but it's well worth a look...(or download)
(ps. Thanks Mike)
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 14 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my IAM two years ago. Best £100+ I ever spent Cool .
Really does make your riding more enjoyable..
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Sable
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 14 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazza M wrote:
I've got a copy of twist of the wrist 2 on pdf if you'd like to have a look - PM me.


I have the dvd of that Smile its pretty good even if it does feel likes going ta turn into a 70s porn film any minute of viewing ^^
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 15 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: Advanced Riding training Reply with quote

soforene wrote:
Clau5 wrote:
... i asked my instructor if advanced riding training was worth it. He said my riding was fine and he said i didn't need extra training....
Sounds like he's a dickhead then.

You are always learning new stuff and by getting some advanced tuition you get a "short cut" to the knowledge that bikers have been learning over years (and which helps them stay alive).

Don't look at it as a way to decrease insurance but as a way to extend your lifespan. Smile


Knowing my luck I could do the extended training and then get cancer.
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