Honda CBR600RR fueling..

[Bike_craze1]

Just wondering if anyone could help, so I've got a CBR600RR 2007, everything is stock apart from a Jardine end can, for some reason the fueling dosen't seem right when riding it, like its over/under fueling.
Their is no power commander, so I take it the fueling is stock.
Does anyone know what this could be? Valve clearances?
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CBT passed: 22/07/08 Bike Theory passed: 28/03/09
Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[UnspeedySam]

[Bike_craze1]

So riding below 5k it bogs, which I thought was normal from a sports 600, say your riding 6th gear 7k revs the fueling just feels out, its not smooth, thats all I can really explain.

Ok so another situation would be, from a stand-still opening the throttle to 5-12k and keeping it at a certain rev, it sounds like its bogging, I've read reviews about the bike and apparently the fueling should be spot on.
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CBT passed: 22/07/08 Bike Theory passed: 28/03/09
Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[Bike_craze1]

It was serviced 2k miles ago, the only thing I could think of is maybe the valve clearances are out? or maybe the previous owner changed the fueling for a race exhuast? but their is no power commander so I wouldn't of thought so..
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Yamaha R125 - Cagiva Mito 125 - Honda CBR 600
CBT passed: 22/07/08 Bike Theory passed: 28/03/09
Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[Bike_craze1]

Do you think if I got a Power Commander it would sort the fueling out? maybe some how the bike doesn't react well to the Jardine end can with stock fueling.. any help appreciated.
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CBT passed: 22/07/08 Bike Theory passed: 28/03/09
Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[brmoore]

Ive had 2 600rr's and owned honda sportbikes my whole life, you need to trace it all the way for a certain result unfortunately but yes it's fueling

good fuel? supermarket stuff is crap and heard a case once of them using such shit fuel people made claims for vehicle damage, was a once off i think but still, not happened to me using shell/bp etc

fuel injectors? are they bogged? perhaps running some shell vpower through might help, it has cleaning agents in it(I only use vpower myself)

then the engine itself, is the engine oil fresh? old?

then the fuel map, yes I had a PC3 on my latest one but i got hit by a car on the weekend, but you need to get it mapped on a dyno or else the PC3/PC5 is just a paperweight, new i think you can only buy PC5's now from dynojet unless companies still have stock of the PC3

also check spark plugs, had a 1988 bike once bog down and spark plugs fixed it a bit but after that it was running rich so fueling again

good luck anyway, honda sportbikes are the best bang for buck!

my 08 that was the one recently hit was very nice so spares/repair may be up for sale soon as honda reckon border line write off so far, they're pricing it in the morning, this pic was 2-3hrs before the crash:

https://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t96/paystowin/SAM_1086_zps99d9c2f4.jpg

[P.addy]

End can shouldn't affect too much. I went from stock to Devil end can on a CBR600RR 03 model.

What fuel are you using currently (garage and 95/97 octane?)

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[brmoore]

[Jim Mc]

Funny I just pulled mine out after winter, same model same year, and after I blipped the throttle to about 4k, the bike choked, the FI light came on and the revs sat at 3k.

Turned off the ignition and turned it back on and it went back to normal, I think mine just needs a good service, new oil and filters and a good run out.

[Paulington]

Hey Bike.

Just out of interest, do you have the stock/standard can? If you do and it isn't too much of a hassle to fit, would it be worth putting it on and then taking the bike for a ride to see if the issue is still there? If it isn't then you know it's the endcan and it'd be worth buying a PC3/PC5 and getting a custom map done for the bike, shouldn't cost a whole lot and a custom map can make a big difference, does on my GSX-R.

If not, I don't have a clue what it could be, but if you want a non-standard exhaust I would definitely recommend getting it remapped anyway. !

Cheers! .
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[Bike_craze1]

Nice bike btw broo!!

Well from what I've heard Shell Vpower is just a con, but each to their own I guess.. I'll give it a go, it was fully serviced 2k miles ago, I don't have to stock can though, I'll check the Plugs, try some Vpower and if not, I think I'll just get a full system and Power Commander

Thanks for the comments boys, respect
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Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[P.addy]

[Knot600RR]

Had a few 600RR's all fitted with retrofit cans and never had problems like you're experiencing. None of my bikes have had power commanders or similar.

FWIW, I've never noticed any difference between fuels, but then I'm not riding anywhere near top end, just enjoy brisk Buckinghamshire lane thrashing....

[evoboy]

Do you have any service history with the bike?

Check what was done at that last service.

Guessing can be expensive.
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[Bike_craze1]

[Acemastr]

RR5 here, Beowulf end can, it pulls smoothly below 5k (not particularly well I add, but it does sound nice) and is smooth all the way up.

Fuel type makes zero different so i doubt it's that. checked air filter is fitted correctly?
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[Bike_craze1]

Yeah man its fitted correctly hmm.. strange.
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Bike Test passed: 15/04/09

[The Tot]

If it's boggy or hunting, could well be that your throttle bodies are out of sync and might need synchronising. It's very much the same as getting your carbs balanced on an old carbie.

Hondas and impeccable fuel injection are NOT two words I'd use in close association, especially the first generation of PGM-FI, such as those circa 2000-2003; 929 blades, SP1's and 600F/F-S's in particular.

It would hunt at low revs or partial throttle openings and bog down horrendously. Trust me, I know! My bike's got PCIII and an end can, so I reverted back to stock can, and also removed the power commander and still the same thing.

I then realised it was notching up close to 32k miles so due for it's other big service, and I can't remember the last time it had its injectors synced and cleaned.

Booked in into Bransons in Gloucester, and it came back purring as smooth as a kitten. Fine at idle, fine at partial throttle and transients. Back in the carb days, balancing them was all part and parcel of maintenance, but nowadays with fancy ECU's and fuel injection, it's a case of take it to the garage and they'll work their magic on it.

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