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Kimmyemac
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: help! Er5 had side stand switch cut and still won't move... Reply with quote
My er 5 starts but stalls when I try to move her the side stand switch has already been cut does anyone else have any other ideas... Thanks
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iMark
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The side stand switch probably makes the circuit not break it.. cutting the wire has completely broke the circuit all together...

Bridge the wires together
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Kimmyemac
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I twisted the wires once cut and taped them together is that not the same thing...
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does it stall when :
Putting it into gear? (If so then does the bike try and lurch forward?)
or
When you're letting the clutch out? (does it attempt to move? brakes aren't seized are they?)

Will it freewheel okay?
Can you put it into gear (2nd or 3rd) and push it with the clutch in and out?
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iMark
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kimmyemac wrote:
I twisted the wires once cut and taped them together is that not the same thing...


It is, but you only mentioned cutting them Razz
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Kimmyemac
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I put it into first gear slowly try letting clutch out it then stalls doesnt move forward at all... it does free wheel ...
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okay...
See if you can push it while in 3rd gear?
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Kimmyemac
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
with the clutch in? I will give it a try tomorrow.. dark now Smile thanks x x
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
You may find that there are three wires and so it may be a combination of them, trial and error until it works.
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andy_uk
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 02 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kimmyemac wrote:
with the clutch in? I will give it a try tomorrow.. dark now Smile thanks x x

Try both (just hoping to rule out a gearbox problem)
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G
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 03 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
A bodge would be to take the clutch switch out too - so it thinks the clutch is always pulled in.
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stavros
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 03 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have a look at the wiring diagram, see if that helps

https://er5.atw.hu/letoltesek/Kawasaki_ER5_C5_2004_Service_Manual_ENG.pdf

It is near the end, section 15.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 03 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Side stand switch cuts the engine as soon as you put it in gear. If it's still running before you let out the clutch, it's not the side stand switch.

The clutch switch is there to allow you to start your engine with the clutch pulled in. Once the engine is running it performs no useful purpose.

I therefore conclude it is something mechanical/operator error etc.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 03 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
It turns out my brakes are jammed on.. got front one sorted but my back brake isnt working at all Sad
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 03 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kimmyemac wrote:
It turns out my brakes are jammed on.. got front one sorted but my back brake isnt working at all Sad


Elaborate?

Is it sticking on and not returning to the release position?
or do you mean pushing the brake pedal it moves but doesn't actually grip?

The latter is just a case of needing adjusted.

If it's sticking, you'll need to take the back wheel off and take out the brake mechanism inside of the wheel and knock the "brake cam" out, then give it a clean and lube up with some grease
https://i.imgur.com/XsE1ErW.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was gonna suggest pulling on the switch to replicate the stand being taken off to see if the switch had just jammed like mine did the other week.

If the rear brake has seized, try simply pushing on the pivot arm (No.2 on iMark's diagram) in a similar way to how your brake release spring should, but with more force to see if that frees it.
Won't be a fix, but at least then you can use the bike...just minus a rear brake Razz Thumbs Up
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