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PostPosted: 21:33 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off - you aren't as fucked as you think you are!

Sit down and work out the bare minimum money you need to earn each week to survive and go from there, that's your goal and any additional income is a bonus. Most places like having a CV and personal statement but they are fairly easy to do. Google CV templates and there are tons of places to crib them from. If you are really stuck, I will can lend you a hand if needed.

Have you considered signing up with a temping agency? I know some require you to have a certain amount of experience or qualifications so keep hunting.

Don't be defeatist though. If you go into this with a negative outlook you won't get very far.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:55 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
CV wise, i can fill in templates etc - but like, personal statement. The feck am i supposed to write?

Interviews always go bad too. I cant talk to people. I cant think of the right answers on the spot, i stutter mutter & ALWAYS fuck it up in some way shape or form. Say the wrong things, etc etc. I mean what the fuck do you say when asked "what does honda mean to you as a brand?"


Preparation to both. Sit on your computer and research how to write good CV's and how to do well in interviews. Prepare for every question you think they could throw at you and answer them in your head. And do it often. If you can't answer a question, look on the internet for guidance. There is a FUCKLOAD of information and support out there on the internet for people struggling with CV's and interview help. If you want it, start doing the time 'studying' for it.

This is what I did, I didn't use any form of in-person guidance that may have been available to me. If you truly want things to change for you, you will be successful. Just start doing the research into what you may want to do in the future and don't get yourself into a fluster. There are always a lot more people worse off in this world (and country)

You say you need to get rid of the car. So do it then.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSE. Saved me 3.5 years ago when I was absolutely fucked with my money - I'm talking 125% mortgage and £30k debt on top fucked!!

Jobs forum:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=141
Ask them what to do, basically what you've posted on here.

Budgeting forum:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20
Tell them you're arse at budgeting properly and how do they do it - plenty of guides on there as well.

Debt free wannabe forum:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76
They'll sort you out with paying off your loans and stuff - I've spent ages on this particular forum!! They'll want you to fill out a Statement Of Affairs (SOA), from here:
https://www.stoozing.com/msoc/soacalc.php
So try to do that first, it doesn't need to be super accurate and you can ask on MSE if you get confused with bits (I did about 3 before it made sense).
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

scrap/sell car, quite your job, tells jsa that your car was stolen/ reposesed etc, claim jsa, tell them your living at home with your parents and your single. go back to working on the side until you find a job/ go back to college, apprenticeship etc.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a great qualification...your work ethic.
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Left old job - were things OK before then - any chance of old job back?
Maybe the guy who replaced you was useless, you never know Very Happy

JSA seems alright bet... get your £70+ and your stamp, gives you time to sort yourself out then.

Looked in to factory jobs / warehouse? Maybe longish hours at not great pay, but at least there's a half decent pay at the end of it and you'll have some security, and they don't care too much about qualifications
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered the military?


You'll work f#cking hard on relatively low pay to begin, but you'll be taught civilian accredited trade skills and managerial skills as your career progresses. Obviously your pay will increase with time served.

Drop me a PM if you want to know anything.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: I'm fucked. Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:


The actual fuck do i do? I've got no idea how to do a CV, no idea what i can actually apply for realisticly as i dont have many qualifications.


for a start i realise its getting to you (i remember that feeling well) but you need to change your attitude.

'i cant, i dont know how' stuff isnt helping. you can do anything you want if you set your mind to it!

need a cv? no problem, there are millions of tips/templates etc.. available online.

www.monster.com
www.reed.co.uk
www.jobsite.co.uk

can all help create your cv just by putting in your details, plus it'll get your info out there for people to contact you and you search yourself.

what can you apply for? senior brain surgeon, breast inspector, bank manager... you can apply for whatever the hell you want. the worst they can do is say no (or nothing) so nothing lost there. apply for what you want and see what comes of it. nothing ventured and all that.

i did a writeup of what i put in my cv in another thread recently (have a lookie over my karma/posts to find it) its built for a technical role but you can take some hints from it hopefully.

i realise you're feeling down in the dumps with it all at the moment but you've just gotta keep plugging away and you will get out of it.

oh and you really need to look at your spending. £40pm for a phone? i've got the 'latest smartphone' and all that and i pay £21 with unlimited calls/texts etc.. there are better tariffs out there. nearly £100 a month on insurance? are you 17? if you're young then ok, i guess you're stuffed but if not then thats a huge amount of money. there are better options.

fingers crossed for you matey, hope you find what you're looking for
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Budgeting etc i've got sorted - i've sorted all the debts out. Just have to pay consolidation loan.

Worried that if i carry on working where i am i'll get into borrowing money to pay for fuel to work, then not making enough back on it to cover expenses of running. Which is what fucked me up baaaad before.

CV as such;

**Name**
**Adress**
**E-mail**
**Home phone**
**Mobile number**
**D.o.b**



Employment History:

Medway Jaguar
July 2005
I spent a week long work experience placement at this garage and worked in the service and repair department where I spent time servicing and repairing cars. As I already had some knowledge of car maintenance I was allowed to do many routine tasks by myself under supervision.



your employment history should run from newest and most current to oldest.

Where did your knowledge of car maintenance come from?
Be a bit more formal with your use of words, e.g.
I undertook a week long work experience placement at this dealership working in the service and repair department. During this week my time was spent servicing and repairing cars. Due to having some basic knowledge of car maintenance from helping my dad service his car and doing the maintenance work on my motorbike I was allowed to do many routine tasks myself under supervision.

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Adscene
August 2002-April 2006
I worked as part of a newspaper delivery team and was responsible for delivering free newspapers to approximately 200 houses each week. I had to ensure that delivery deadlines were met.



Again, can you pad this out slightly, perhaps mentioning that you were delivering regardless of the weather, did the newspapers have advertising leaflets in them?
did you sometimes have to do two rounds a week as B&Q's leaflet and Focus' leaflet weren't allowed to be delivered on the same day (hated when that happened)

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McDonalds
March 2006-January 2007
I worked various shifts, usually around 10 hours a week. I was trained to operate tills, prepare food and ensure the restaurant was clean at tidy at all times. I also received customer care and health/safety training.


Mc Donald's Restaurant - Bognor Regis (you should be putting where the place was)
During my time at McDonald's restaurant I worked a variety of shifts, normally totalling 10 hours per week (was this part time while at college, if so explaining the lower than normal hours would be good) I was quickly trained up to operate tills while taking orders from the customers, prepare food and ensure the restaurant was clean and tidy at all times. I also received training in customer care and health and safety.
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Supremoglaze
Jan 2007-March 2007
This was a temporary position in a call centre where I gained experience in sales. I had to cold call clients and arrange call back appointments. I regularly met targets for the number of leads finalized in a customer appointment.


are you able to explain why it was a temporary position? No worries if not, employers often like to know why you took a short term role, if it was just to get money in, then save the explanation for interview,

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Earl Street Agency
July 2007-September 2007
Warehouse work with DHL. Temporary casual work via an employment agency.


what did you do there, what were your responsibilities, how many hours a day

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Key Training
October 2007-January 2008
3 month work experience placement. Duties included data input, filing and postage systems. I was also responsible for a mild level of IT support (for example replacing damaged keyboards, changing toner cartridges and other basic tasks)



information and describe, imagine you're the voice over on a documentary or something if it helps Smile

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Clive’s Garage
February 2008-April 2008
I worked as a trainee mechanic in a small “two man” garage. Responsibilities included breaking up cars for parts to be sold, servicing customer’s cars and preparing cars for painting/repairing crash damage.



polish it out man, "I worked as a trainee mechanic....... My responsibilities included dismantling (breaking can sound more like smashing up)
completing anual services on customer's cars (you did the entire service of the car, no?)

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Various Employers
April 2008 –March 2010
I worked a series of temporary laboring jobs, mostly building sites. I also worked on a project converting an old oil tanker into housing. It was all short term (usually two to three weeks at a time) as required, and helped with living expenses whilst I struggled to find a permanent job. I gained experience in various aspects of building work, fabrication, decorating, metal & woodwork.



an old oil tanker, what like a ship?

again, polish the description off "unfortunately it was all short term work" it implies you enjoyed the job and would have happily continued if the offer had been there.

"and helped with living expenses"

perhaps "I worked a series of labouring jobs..."

"While I looked for permanent employment"

you're wanting to sound as though you know you want a permanent job, that you need to look for it yourself, it's not going to arrive randomly one day and you're practical about the fact that you want to be out and working in the meantime, not sitting on your ass. You need to convey this in the description.

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Pizza go go
March 2010 -2011
I worked as a delivery driver for a pizza shop. Responsibilities also included various cleaning tasks, and assisting with upkeep of the shop. I gained a lot of experience of dealing with customers, and a good knowledge of the local area.



until when in 2011?

What experience did you get of dealing with customers? Did you enjoy interacting with them? Did you get good experience of dealing with awkward customers and handling the situation in a calm manner?

would "pizza delivery company" be a better description of the business?

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Delta UK Express
Present
I currently work as a courier driver. I have been responsible for same day, and multidrop deliveries. I work mainly in the south east and London; however have delivered packages as far as Wales and Sheffield. I have learned to be very flexible with times to work, as I am on callout 24/7 delivering time critical packages to places such as police stations & hospitals across the country. I have full technical courier training enabling me to fit & replace Virtual Acess routers & networking components across the country.



East should have a capital letter,
you currently work there, so "I am responsible" keep it all in the present tense.
Do you enjoy being flexible with work hours?
Places or locations? which sounds better?

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Qualifications

• English GCSE – C
• Maths GCSE – C
• Science double award GCSE – CC
• Literature GCSE – D
• Electronics GCSE – D
• French GCSE – E
• History GCSE – F
• ICT GNVQ – Pass



when and where did you undertake your qualifications?

2000 - 2002 Kirkstone Community College

GNVQ ICT - Pass

1995 - 2000 Kirkstone Grammar School

GCSE English - C
Maths - C
etc etc

The layout here needs to be neat and presentable and informative of the timescale of when and where qualifications were taken.

my English GCSE is listed separately alongside my college course as I re-took it at college, I'm yet to have anyone comment on it.

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Hobbies/Interests:

***This is where i cant think of anything***


References available on request


Suggestions Neutral


Hobbies and interests,
you might taylor this to each application

what do you like doing?

servicing motorbikes?
camping?
cycling?
Hiking?
Rock climbing?

anything you enjoy doing that you can talk for 5 mins or more on should do if asked in interview, if it's something you've recently stopped doing you can say how much you miss it.

eg
I started climbing while at uni but I've not been rock climbing for a couple of years as I don't know anyone local who also climbs, as such I can't go and I do miss it, I'm hoping I'll find someone soon I can go climbing with.


"excellent references upon request"

hope that helps



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feel free to PM me if you want me to have a look over your CV beyond what's above

I'm in a similar situation of having no job and not hearing back from interviews, currently living off my wife which isn't good and is annoying the heck out of me.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

People overdo CV's waaaay too much.

Mine is 1 page long. Not because I have nothing to sell, but because the person reading your CV doesn't want your entire life history.

Previous jobs - limit to last job and then last relevant job. If last two jobs are relevant, just mention them.

most recent qualifications only.

relevant hard skills

relevant soft skills

No hobbies/interests. what the fuck does that mean to an employer! They don't care that I used to fly aircraft and that i'm an amateur mechanic. It's not relevant to the job!

references available upon request.

Every CV should be accompanied with a cover letter that is written with the job and employer in mind that you are applying for.

Here you can go into a little detail on relevent skills, industry standards, and what you are like as a person.

Be specific and keep it short!


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PostPosted: 11:12 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are you?
I probably got paid more than you in the first year of my apprenticeship!

My GCSE's aren't that much better than yours, but I did a 4 year apprenticeship, 2 years work in my trade and I'm now at Sydney Uni.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut down your CV a bit and apply for apprenticeships. Must be some around as they're pushing for companies to do it. We just took on a 22 year old who took a pay cut to get in.

How about:
https://www.totaljobs.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=55105000

https://careers.fi/konecranes/careers.cgi?job_id=3346

https://veolia.taleo.net/careersection/extexp/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=413322&source=Indeed.com&sourceType=PREMIUM_POST_SITE

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=844852

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=781676

https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/GetJob.aspx?JobID=967080

Those were just from 1 search, I'm sure if you're willing to commute some way you'd find loads.


Post your actual CV document up here if you want advice on it, I'm sure people will be willing help to re-write it.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain, I'm shit at CVs so can't help you that way.

I also can't help with money Laughing

But I know you are a talented guy... I'm not thick, but some things like electrics and that... can go fuck. You managed to sort an electrical issue on my bike in 2 minutes.

Believe in yourself a bit more.

I would offer use of the Vara but I really do need to use it given the Bandits AIDS.

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PostPosted: 18:37 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

EMPLOYMENT: You still need to change Employment section so that the most recent is first.
Personally, I think your write up of each role is lacking.. You are only really saying what your job is, not what you do. You need to emphasise your transferrable skills, not tell them what the job was.

PERSONAL STATEMENT: I'd also put the personal statement first on the CV, underneath your details. Make it less "generic" and actually say what your goals are. As it is, you sound like every other applicant out there.

OTHER SKILLS: most of those can be intergrated into the Employment section. You're just wasting space.

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PostPosted: 19:11 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are after a new pope at the Vatican...

https://news.sky.com/story/1050513/pope-benedict-resigns-and-stuns-the-world

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PostPosted: 19:13 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much previous employment history. Like i said in an earlier post, limit it it to your most recent job, and then your most simliar job. And most recent always comes first, whether it is jobs, qualifications, etc.

Your cover letter needs some more substance. Consider moving what you have put as your personal statement into your cover letter.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 11 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a thought and probably nothing like what you had in mind but, have you considered Farming ?

Not knowing what your surrounding area is like I dont know how realistic this is, but along as you have a driving license and are willing to put the time and effort in to learn.

Plenty of hours to be worked on a reasonable sized farm.
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