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PostPosted: 09:39 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Something going on is very fishy!!!!!!! Reply with quote

my mate just got back from Dubai and told me its 20p a litre out there for petrol WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

So that means it would cost me £2.60 for a full tank of petrol on the R1!

I know and undertand ours is heavily taxed but this is really taking the piss 20pence per litre vs £1.38 per litre

this our petrol monetary system is fishy more now than ever
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

they produce enough of the stuff to sell it cheaply at home and still supply most of the world, its the same in america, just not to the same degree


if it ever happened that you could power anything with seawater, the tables would be turned round
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dubai....

Isnt that the place with all the oil barons?
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dubai is expensive. Although they produce lots of oil, they don't have a petrol refinery so they have to import their petrol from Saudi. In Saudi petrol is around 15p a litre.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Dubai is expensive. Although they produce lots of oil, they don't have a petrol refinery so they have to import their petrol from Saudi. In Saudi petrol is around 15p a litre.


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PostPosted: 10:01 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK is in the top 10 most expensive in the world. I think Turkey was the most expensive at around £1.60ltr (this was same time last year i read report)

All of the UAE countries are cheap as they produce the oil etc. The cheapest was around 8ppl I read as the government make so much money from exports they subsidies it 95%
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Venezuela is something like 2p a litre Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Venezuela is crazy cheap too
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uk petrol is 80% tax
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562250_564689026897881_1459156543_n.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cimbian wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/562250_564689026897881_1459156543_n.jpg

So the UK now has no North Sea oil then (oil producer = no).
That'll screw up the Scots with their referendum thing then! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dubai has little or no oil industry, that's why they have gone large on property and banking. By the same token, they are swilling in (other peoples) money. Taxes are low to non existent. BUT, the cost of living is still very high as everything has to be imported, swings and roundabouts.

I recall in Saudi pulling up to a fuel stop in my gigantic Yank tank. The little Korean or Yemeni attendant put the hose in the filler, locked it on pump I walked away to do some shopping for five minutes. Came back to find petrol swilling out the filler and surrounding the car in a lake of the stuff. Total cost 8, yes EIGHT pence!
That was in the days when their was very little refining actually done in the Middle East, why bother. The tankers went out loaded with crude, and came back loaded with refined fuel, they had to make the journey anyway so it made sense.

I could get started on the economics of high taxation, suffice to say, fuel is a cash-cow for governments of all flavours, its easy to collect and we have been trained to rely on the stuff, a bit like the tobacco industry used to be before the health Nazis got on their high horses.
We have to give the banks back all the money they have gambled away. I'm just waiting for some bright spark in the treasury thinking, 'Hmmm, the Cyp's had a good idea there, tax peoples savings.'
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
And Venezuela is something like 2p a litre Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: 10:47 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some sort of propaganda crap about that image because Norway is one of the biggest producers of oil around. As is the UK. Both produce Brent Crude which is some of the best quality crude you can get.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
There is some sort of propaganda crap about that image because Norway is one of the biggest producers of oil around. As is the UK. Both produce Brent Crude which is some of the best quality crude you can get.


that is true, isn't light crude also a product of the north sea ?
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Dubai....

Isnt that the place with all the oil barons?

And the slaves Cool

Import some over on the cheap then, sell for profit, live like kings.
How many laws do you think stop you from doing exactly that, I bet there's at least 60 bazillion
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
Import some over on the cheap then, sell for profit, live like kings.
How many laws do you think stop you from doing exactly that, I bet there's at least 60 bazillion

Yeah, usual taxation laws. Same as if you wanted to import any tax free product like cigarettes. The moment you try and skiff HMRC out of some money, you're in big trouble. People go to prison for a longer time for things like that than they do for killing someone.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing this on the BBC a few months ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21238363
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That confuses me to be honest, on a relatively small island with a high population and population density like the UK, how is it justifiable that prices for everything are so high?

The UK produces oil - not as much as Kuwait or Saudi perhaps, but it produces. Goods transport around the UK shouldn't be expensive at all, after all it's a fairly small island. Driving a truck from any point A to any point B on the UK mainland can be achieved in 12 - 15 hours with relative ease.

So why don't the economies of scale work in our favour? Personally, I think it's because a) the government is signed up to too many money sucking programs which leads to b) taxes needing to be too high in order to pay for them.

Some of the things I would like to stop funding:

Any and all arts grants. When was the last time a grant funded artwork provoked anything other than bemusement? Committees don't produce art, individuals do.

Interpretation services for languages other than French, German, Spanish and Russian, for courts and elsewhere. Lets face it, those four are the main EU languages the UK is likely to encounter and in all reality, most of those will have some English anyway. You could probably add Chinese (which variant though?) and Japanese to the list, but apart from that, if they can't communicate in one of those six languages, what the fuck are they doing here?

I would hazard a guess that a full quarter of the Civil Service could be eliminated without any real difference in service provision.

On the subject of the Civil Service, all of the departments seem to have bought into this "branding" idea. What a load of shit. Serious money goes into developing these brands, when all they need is a coat of arms and the name of the department. Stationary could be shared across the entire government - anyone else remember yellow envelopes with a coat of arms and OHMS where the stamp goes?

If you think stationary is nitpicking, think again, it's one of the largest industries on the planet.

There are lots more ways to reduce taxes, but I can't be arsed typing them, it's just pissing into the wind anyway, the tl;dr version is we are being robbed and the money wasted.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have made the mistake in thinking the people above want to lower taxes, how will that help them?

I find it amazing people didn't kick off more about 20% VAT
20%!!!! ON FUCKING EVERYTHING YOU BUY!

£100 for a new stereo - No problem, that's £120 please, that's an extra 20 for the government for the pleasure of you living in their country, despite being born here
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
I remember seeing this on the BBC a few months ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21238363


21p to brim a CBR.

21p to do 120 miles doesn't sound too bad at all... I'd fucking use it to start fires over there, here we are stuck with cans of Lynx and a lighter.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

£7 a pint for beer though so its not all good!
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockhopper wrote:
£7 a pint for beer though so its not all good!


Don't drink then... ride more Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Rockhopper wrote:
£7 a pint for beer though so its not all good!


Don't drink then... ride more Laughing


or drink petrol, its cheaper...just dont burp by the bbq
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