Bull-it jeans

parkmoy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Karma :

I fancy a pair of lined jeans for summer and am trying to decide which offer the best protection.

Just came across this page https://www.motolegends.com/trousers/jeans/Bull-it-flex-dirty-wash-jeans.html# and when I ran a check on BCF found that they got a slating last year for lack of information and spamming.

Does this change any opinions and what is this level 2 CE standard they reckon no other jean has reached? Am I best sticking with Draggit or one of the other Kevlar jeans?

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Hood are the only ones I'd trust. The only ones with full kevlar coverage.

I crashed in mine and they survived better than my cordura jacket and leather gloves...
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Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

I think the point they are making is kevlar isn't fit for clothing. I have been doing lots of homework on jeans, as I drift and am sick of road rash. Draggin have a kevlar/dyneema pant, but i found a video on youtube on dyneema where this woman chats about how when she wears a dyneema glove, it conducts the heat to the body faster. Well call me stupid, but itf i bail on my bike and slide, won't that mean that the jeans will burn my skin ????

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

I should hope you didn't, because it seems Hood only use kevlar .... not this dyneema
But going back to the original post at the start of the topic, It seems that Bullit have found a material that lasts longer than kevlar. In fact the link on there site was pretty good in terms of info https://bull-it.com/technical-testing/. Not sayin your wrong, but I havent found much more info in one place than here. If anyone knows of more info then please send me the link. I contacted them and they told me there jeans are coming in April, so I'm gonna tray a pair and see what all this fuss is about. Again it seems those who have them now like them, and there facebook page is growing pretty quick, so i reckon something must be right ...

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

A sandwich can past CE tests for armour - doesn't have to mean much Smile

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Born to slide - surely leather trousers would make more sense than denim based jeans?
Crashed many times in well fitting ones and not suffered road rash.

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covent.gardens · World Clap Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Karma :

Do you know about Draggin K legs?
Seems to be essentially a kevlar baselayer (full coverage), so you can slip them on, then just wear any jeans you like over the top. I haven't tried them. £150+.
Might work out cheaper if you're damaging the denim in off's fairly often, as the denim and kevlar are independent of each other.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I like Hood, my favourite bike jeans.
I think I've got the K7 and H2.

H2 is good for looking posh, but I prefer the K7, even though it has a lot less coverage.
If I manage to abrade underneath my knee or in my inner thigh, I've probably got bigger issues!

chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

I have a had a few different types of kevlars, my favourite being, Berik and Draggin Thumbs Up

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Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

I hear what your saying guys, but again from the info on Bullit site, kevlar seems to degrade when it gets wet, not that you can see it, it seems the material itself looses its protection. I use leather atm, but come summer time ... if it ever appears ... i want a lighter pant with strong protection. They have a new voloce jean that lasts for more than 7 seconds if u crash, isnt that longer than leather ?? Anyone know ??

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

I have a mankini here that I can categorically assure you exceeds CE EN 13595-2.

Prove otherwise, bro.

Oooh, they're "professionally endorsed"! Translation: they gave a few pairs to some famous-on-YouTube types in return for pointing a camera at them.

Drag test or GTFO. Hand

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Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

Another thing I just found, the top draggin jean there CE level 1 evo is £259.00 ... Bullit are sayin there lowest level jean is CE level 1 and is only £129.00 ..... No Brainer ??

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Born to Slide, do you work for bull-it or something? Seriously, you seem very determined to big them up, and you joined the forum today. If you are employed by them (which it certainly looks like you do) then you clearly don't realise that its transparent.

Hood are better value, I trust them and they have full kevlar coverage.
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Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

Hahah, I was going to ask if you work for Hood ....
And thanks for pointing out I joined today, a day off work and boredom made me have a go on here. Forgive me for asking questions about other brands, but come summer time, i wanna have something decent to ride in. I guess you are always on forums, lucky you have the time to do so ......

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Ok.

Just to clarify.

It looks bad for bull-it if you have to create fake accounts, pretending to be an 'innocent customer'.

It looks bad for bull-it if you have to ask questions about your own products. Also similarly for you to have to ask questions about rival products.

This will quite likely make people want to avoid your products, not buy them.

If you wish to discuss marketing opportunities on this forum, please drop Korn an email.
Do not create multiple accounts. Do not pretend to be someone you're not.

There are right and wrong ways to deal with social marketing.
This is a wrong way.

A better way would have been to respond in the thread previously created and address the questions people had in a calm manner.

Marjay has been posting on here for a long time.
A lot of people have personally met him.
I'm confident that he does not, in fact, have a business connecting with Hood jeans. He in fact had got, I believe, jobs for other forum members in the company he worked for at the time - which had nothing to do with motorcycle clothing.

The evidence is against your suggestion.
The evidence is with his suggestion that you work for/with bull-it.

Poor show.
I'm all for British companies - but not ones that feel the need to lie like this.

Please note that we do not allow multiple accounts with the same user/company represented (even if you're lying about who you are.)

Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

No offence intended mate, all I was doing was trying to see if anyone had actually tried a pair of there jeans out. Always better to ask first. If I did work for them, I would be singing there praises a lot more. I have tried Hood stuff, but I found them a bit to heavy for drifting in. Off now, as the BT man has just turned up to fix my phone line, so end of my tinternet for a bit. Laters Wink

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Final thought:

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=247269

Aaah.... THIS is his other account then?

Vindicated, and lawyered!
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

So, OP asks a question, Born To Slide replies, but they are one and the same person who works for Bull-it , yet someone comes on and says that Hood are better?

Marketing Fail! Laughing

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Born to slide · L Plate Warrior Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Karma :

Firstly, I do NOT work for Bullit, I serve legal documents for councils and the courts. Second, why the F.. would anyone who worked for a company set up a forum name in the same name as the company ???? fail !!!
I never claimed to be the worlds greatest drifter, its something I am learning and enjoy. My mates got me into it and I enjoy it. Why the hell can you not come into a forum and ask a question on something that seems to be new without everyone thinking that they have the right to decide who can and cant say stuff. So what if im shit at drifting ... so what if i have a crap job, who are you to dictate to me and demand a list of my entire wordrobe contents to justify asking a simple question.

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Scootaloo · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Karma :

I don't know what the fcuk is going on here as I'm just a stupid biker durrrrrrrrr.

All I know now is, I'm sure as hell going to avoid https://bull-it.com/ from now on.

That is all, Have a nice day.
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