Benefit reduction / Spare room tax

[daemonoid]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21835606

So, is it insensitive to say people should forego the Sky TV and casual gambling if they're on benefits? Especially as the rest of the ad read "Start budgeting now - we can help you do this, call us!".
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[N cee thirty]

well wouldn't you be pissed if you had your sky taken away from you after a hard day of sitting on your arse?

fkin human rights goin to pot.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

It depends on the benefit really.

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[unitynotsocri...]

most people on benefits dont have sky. having their home taken away is whats on the cards....

we are all in this together??????/

Recommend for social fairness that any non benefit cliament gets charged for unused bedrooms in property at the same rate,

after all the reason for the reduction is to save public taxes,and the bedroom disallowance is all about bailing out the economy ...

prime your flintlocks,sharpen your pitchforks.........we've never had a real civil war.........just a load of richer landowners wanting to curb to puffy inbred crown,they killed that king.

THIS IS CLASS WAR.THE GOVERMENT IS UNELECTED.BILLION POUND FRAUDSTERS ARE LEFT FREE,FREE TO LEAVE BUST BANKS AND WORK AT THE BANK OF ENGLAND!!!!!!!!

come come.....watch this year as the property owning paradigm collapses further.This goverment,to keep control ,is quite prepared to rubbish the value of the pound.......that includes creaming off 25% of private individual wealth ,Cyprus style if it needs to.
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[ThoughtContro...]

Eastlands Homes? That would be round this shithole. All that will happen is that more of them will go on the rob, and you will get "taxed" as they used to say round here.

Got a bike, laptop, anything we want and can sell to Cash Converters for a tenner, fifty or whatevoh? Then we'll just kick through your doors or windows and take it while you're at work. Wealth redistribution underclass style.

The fact that they're taking shit from people who are probably as potless as them who are likely in debt and working for far less than the supposed "average wage" to provide their desirable possessions ain't their problem.

Cameron voters won't be arsed until gangs of E Manc scum (bet the Scousers will give us a good run too) invade their homes with machetes to claim their underclass tax, probably with the car keys being the first to go.

It's an interesting time is a depression. Boring it aint
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[alexknight200...]

The benefit system is there for a reason and I whole heartedly support the concept.

Anyone that is down on their luck or too ill to provide for themselves or family should be given a helping hand.

Now here's the rub.

Instead of glibly pointing that accusing finger at 'the rich' perhaps it would be far more productive to carry out a witch hunt against the people that abuse the system and use it as a 'lifestyle'.

For sure we all should contribute and ensure that people are cared for, but not to ensure that those that use the system live off the rest of us.
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[smegballs]

It pisses me off people call it a "tax". While I agree with the principle, it does seem that in practice there isn't any houses for people to actually downgrade to, which makes it pretty retarded.

In any case though it is not a tax, simply a reduction in what they are being given for free.

While people say "it's not a lifestyle", for loads of my friends it actually is. They'll quite happily sit on the dole and spend their time making music and hanging with their mates.

I'm not even bitter about them getting money for free, what irks me is time. They pretty much don't have to spend any time earning cash to maintain a roof over their head or food in the belly, leaving plenty of time (which is a scarce resource) to allow them to do whatever they please.

If I just didn't have to do anything I could spend so much time on various projects and learn so many cool things.

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[fatpies]

Bloody socialists.

Those who cry we're being taxed!

Well they forget somebody, like me has to be robbed to pay for this.


Secondly housing benefit puts a floor on rents, meaning that crap houses which are worth £10 a week at most (and I'm serious), have a floor put on them of £50 because of the housing benefit.

Add on the land control and people need a certain amount of money to live. Demand more wages which makes companies outsource to China.
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[fatpies]

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[Joncrete Cungle]

I only know one person who has complained about being hard done to by this 'bedroom tax'. As I understand it her and her young son 'need' a 3 bedroom semi detached house, only she doesn't want to pay for it out of her own pocket. As I understand it she works part time? Getting paid every month. The state then gives her a further thousand pounds or thereabouts every month in 'benefits' that she is 'entitled to'

Made up of housing benefit, working tax credits, council tax benefits, child tax credits and child benefit. On top of that she gets £100 a week cash from the father of her son and pulls some sort of scam that involved putting her son in nursery 3 days a week while she was at her part time job. Guess what the taxpayer stumped up some money to cover that too, straight in to her bank account. Only for her to take her son out of nursery after a couple of weeks and leave him with her mum, still pocketing the free money that was supposed to pay for childcare.

She is so poor that she doesn't spend two hundred quid a month on make up, doesn't have a new laptop and broadband, oh and an I phone, doesn't have a massive chav flatscreen TV and Sky. She hasn't just got a newish car on tick, isn't going on holiday twice a year abroad and doesn't go out and get horrifically pissed every Saturday night either.

She is so poor and downtrodden that she can't afford to stump up an extra fifteen quid a week to pay for the proposed reduction in her free money. Well she might be when the DWP contact the nursery to see when her son was last there.

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[nowhere.elysium]

Quite aside from having a hilarious name, the quoted resident also had a wonderfully indignant soundbite which made me chuckle:

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[Joncrete Cungle]

[R1stu]

Me and the GF were thinking of moving in together. But by moving in together we are going to be worse off! I will be about £300 down.

I will have to pay her rent and then council tax at £100 as well as towards all the bills. we have 6 kids between us, and they expect £320 living cost a week for this lot! that equates to £1280! That's more than I take home a month!!

Yet I earn too much for us to even be part eligible for HB/CT allowance.

Yet if I stop working, it all paid for etc etc, yet still same allowance a week to live, yet only income would be £400 a month (for me)

so even on benefit I would not even be-able to cover bills let alone live.

Yet others get a host of stuff given to them. Ive worked years and the few times I actually needed to government to help me out I got screwed over.

The people that really need it struggle to get it, yet those who just choose to take it get it.

Take my mate for an example. He got involved in a serious accident thats changed his life, and will never be the same as he use to be. Yet the refused him DLA. After all of the appeals and paperwork and stress, he managed to get the mid rate.

Yet my ex is on higher rate and all she really has is a few mental issues and a dodgy knee. My mate cant even walk without sticks.

My chav ex of a GF has never worked, just got a 3 bed house (Popped another kid, supposedly mine yet refuses DNA /Birth cert) shes spent £800 on a buggy and buys her other kids 3/7yrs £80 track suits.

Cuz she cn! is her anser (Spelling meant that way)
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