Terraclean engine cleaning process (like wheeler dealers)

[woo]

Following on from the other post about Terraclean which cleans your engine internals from carbon build up i got my R1 internal engine and other internal parts cleaned by Terraclean.

took about 10 to 20 mins and was very straight forward.

my mate got his audi tt done as well

the bike does feel smoother so does his audi tt, would recommend it, and have liked it on face book.

on the terra clean south facebook page theres a picture of mine being done

i was worried this might give me a placebo effect but im glad it really has made a difference and its not a placebo

best way to describe the difference is it is like having a fuel injected bike with a power commander custom mapped on a dyno run, the smootheness was that noticeable for me

if your curious about it type terraclean in youtube or google it, the guy that did mine is mobile so came to us

some pics of it being done:

https://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p613/wooizm/20130319_165303_zpsbed9a5dd.jpg

https://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p613/wooizm/20130319_165257_zps2fcfbd48.jpg

https://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p613/wooizm/20130319_165529_zpsb6c74c58.jpg
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[sickpup]

So where did all the carbon go?

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How much was it?
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[The Tot]

I posted this same question on the celica-club forums. But nobody seems to have had it done. Saying that, the emissions on the 190 celica were pretty good - 10ppm HC (limit for fail is 200) and 0% CO. I weren't sure if it needed doing.

What was the condition of your mate's Audi TT prior to the clean, and afterwards, based on his seat-of-the-pants dyno? Did he notice much improvement on fuel economy (although, this is difficult to judge since it's still winter and hence we're using more load in the car)?

I'm seriously interested, and a few guys at work with performance cars are keen to get feedback.

I can only presume that the carbon gets burnt up and shot out the back. Based on the bumf i've read, the treatment uses aliphatic compounds i.e ultra pure fuel to burn off the crud. Mates at work all seem to think it's heavily aggressive detergents and cleaners maybe?

Tried to find patents and such like and the background studies which the website seems to cite, but I've got nothing. Surely if it was developed by MIT and such like, we'd be able to get some journals?

Either way, anecdotal stories seem convincing enough, but I can't warrant £80 when I know that the base settings from my car seem fine. But, I suppose you don't know until you try? Cheaper than getting your injectors ultrasound, and buying a new lambda sensor mind.
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[woo]

was told that on a molecullar level it sort of breaks the carbon up which is then burnt off.

im curious to see how this goes as ive only ridden 8 miles since it was done noticed a difference so really want to see how it goes in the long run

my mate said his audi tt feels smoother than what it was before so on this terraclean we are BCF's test ginea pigs on this

the cost is £108 including vat but my mates loves a haggle so the price was reflected after his haggle as he did his car and my bike one after the other.

before i did it i read a whole load of revews on this and was worried i may be paying money for placebo but at the moment it dont seem that way.

the guys recommends thats it done every 10k miles

theres a garage in hammersmith called i think xavier autos which does this as well and they swear by it too

im not rich but for the sake of what we paid i thought might as well

i still gotta try out the all year biker ACF spray thing
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[sickpup]

Thing is loose carbon could easily cause a valve not to close and it only needs a tiny bit and then you are in engine stripping mode.

I am dubious of these miracle cures for things that don't actually exist and until some one does an engine strip straight after I will continue to disbelieve. I would think that what it does in clean the injectors and nothing else.

A better test would be to retest the HC and CO 100 miles later.

[The Tot]

It was videos like THIS Promotional video which stresses the point, but I have to agree with you Pup. He doesn't exactly state exactly how it works, anything scientific. And it's this marketing that makes it sound all too convincing to be true, especially with the very non-scientific "there's this group of scientists" yadayada yada.

So unless somebody does a strip to see the actual results rather than taking it as face value as this guy says. If it's all that it's cracked out to be, then you'd want to see pictures afterwards. But then again, pics can be doctored! Considering that for cars, it's applied by setting your engine at 1600 rpm to combust the fuel.

Pup, spare 10 minutes and watch this video, if not, you get get your missus and mossy to torch my house for wasting your time!
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[woo]

yep that video kinda sold it to me to try it out if i had the money i would have loved to strip the engine take pictures of all the internals then put back together then have the terra clean done then strip the engine to check for the visble difference.
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[The Tot]

I'm on the fence with this, but there's a good dozen people at work that want to know what it's like. Considering the Celica is at 85k miles and is a peaky high revving engine, which for most part sits at 4k or less (redline is at 8.5k), I'd like to have a go.

My main motivation was when I had a look at Edd China's testimonial vids and there was a chap on a Jag S type who managed to reclaim 8mpg after his treatment. My car managed to average 33mpg on my eurotrip with my dad (Koln, Germany to Blackheath, London) on 1 tank (350miles) last november, which involved me sitting at 90mph for most part of the journey. Considering I stayed at legal speeds from Gloucester->bournemouth and back, I only managed 320 to the tank. (but like I said, heaters are constantly on, and there's a 10 degree temp difference).
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[sickpup]

Pure marketing video.

I suspect the reason for the low HC and CO readings is the cleaner canned fuel used to run the engine.

It would seem the second can is just a detergent and one that doesn't combust very well which would explain why it 'cleans' O2 sensors beyond the combustion chamber.

Could always request a data sheet for it, as a chemical COSHH require one.

[woo]

this seems to be quite known in america more than here just as flash tuning ecu are over there

i will come back and comment after 200 miles as 8miles is not the best review just an initial response

now im off to read the rest of the walking dead comic which is so much better than the series of the walking dead which is dawson creek with dawson grown up with zombies thrown in.
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[sickpup]

[uberkron]

These treatments have solved issues on some direct injection petrol powered mitsubishis. I believe fuel injectors still need to be cleaned in an ultrasonic bath whilst being operated, but as for carbon deposits, some people feed the engine brake fluid, some feed it water, i just decarbonise with the throttle.
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[The Tot]

Pup, COSHH would be a good shout. Notice how they franchise it to mobile fitters and such like? But if you can get a COSHH/MSDS sheet to give us an idea of what its contents are, then I'm interested.

It's got nice combustible whiff of snake oil to it which is no different to the halfords type fuel injector treatments... Speaking of which Pup, which can you recommend?

Woo, I'm not discounting your efforts and anecdotal evidence, but the engineer in me wants to know EXACTLY what's going on, and substantiated by good hard data.
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[woo]

to me it feels smoother but if this really is placebo i dont know hopefully 200 miles will show this
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[toshpot]

This seems to be the datasheet you are talking about.

I probably wouldn't spend that kind of money on this though, too tight arsed.
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[sickpup]

By that data sheet it is a fuel injection cleaner with high volatility.
I suspect that if it does clean out carbon it does it by soaking (under pressure) into carbon then the ignition of the fuel causes small amounts of carbon to break off to be blown out the exhaust, a sort of poor mans cavitation. The cleaner burning mixture 'could' have a cleaning effect on sensors after the combustion chamber but you would probably get a better result just cleaning them in isopropyl alcohol anyway.

It appears to be just a fuel injector cleaner injected under pressure.

[P.]

I just think... is my engine still working.

Yes.

Does it do what it did when I bought it.

Yes.

Do I think that is a waste of money.

Yes

[DrSnoosnoo]

Seems there's high volatility which'd break up the carbon, it's that "diethylene glycol monobutyl ether" that would carry through, IMO. It could help as a carrier for the carbon, and also could help the cleaning after the explosion chamber ...

Just creating stupid big explosions that'd be dangerous to an engine over long periods, maybe, just blasting deposited carbon outa there.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

Sounds like bollocks tbh.

[UnknownStuntm...]

I remember buying a spray can (20k boost?) for something like £20 maybe 15 years ago claimed to do the same thing. I had a mk2 Golf GTI at the time. I did it on my driveway, took the pipe off below the airbox and sprayed the contents up the inlet. You had to rev the engine at the same time or the thing would die, but by god, the smoke and crud that popped out of the back was crazy. Was a proper grey cloud that didn't blow away very quickly. Neighbours loved it

Car 'seemed' so go better just after too. Got it on the rollers and it put out the most it had ever done by about 7brakecowpower, so maybe it was - who knows.

Not seen it for ages though.

[woo]

have noticed the bike starts so much better now with cold starts as before it would take about 6 clicks before firing up with choke on and without throttle.

now with choke on and 1 click it fires up first time
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