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The UK government does have some interest in the value of the £ but not enough of an interest to be bothered about devaluing it with quantitative easing.
There is no surety to the value of a currency that has a decentralized authority.
Plenty of people have tried to point out the absence of their value but no one has managed to come up with any useful arguments. |
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____________________ Observation is the greatest source of wisdom. |
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Please, that's yesterdays news.
4,700 coins is a big heist but not the biggest. |
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Here's my two pence as a futurist rather than someone who knows anything about bitcoin and other crypto currencies.
Look at what we've done in 30 years as opposed to the last 300. We are doing some crazy things, we are truly in the technological age right now and we continue to advance in many fields... robotics, ai, medicine, nano, space, etc.
Anyone and I mean anyone who disregards crypto currency as something of a fad or something that will burn out or crash is deluded. We're moving towards automation now and using robots and ai to replace human jobs and tasks. Virtual reality is in its infancy but the uses of that will become an integral part of our society. So to think that crypto currencies will go away is pretty silly when you step back and think what we'll be doing in 10 - 15 years from now. It might not be Bitcoin, it might not be IOTA or whatever but there will be some form of it and it will be the only currency worth using.
Fiat currency I wouldn't mind but it's... and forgive the cliche... literally not worth the paper it's written on. What's it backed with these days? They are just printing it and lending it and taxing / manipulating us with it, as they have for 1,000's of years.
I have ignored it for too long, which considering my trading history, I should not have left it for, "another day when I'm not busy".
When in our lifetimes will we get to witness a whole new currency become widely accepted and used more than most fiat currencies in the next 10 years?
I saw an article the other day that Venezuelans are playing old games like Runescape / Tiba so that they can mine gold in the game and sell it on auction sites to other players for $. Their own "fiat currency" is worth shit and they can make better money mining virtual currency sat in an internet cafe all day, 7 days a week. That's fucking crackers but I think a sign of things to come... |
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Jayy wrote: | Here's my two pence as a futurist rather than someone who knows anything about bitcoin and other crypto currencies.
Look at what we've done in 30 years as opposed to the last 300. We are doing some crazy things, we are truly in the technological age right now and we continue to advance in many fields... robotics, ai, medicine, nano, space, etc.
Anyone and I mean anyone who disregards crypto currency as something of a fad or something that will burn out or crash is deluded. We're moving towards automation now and using robots and ai to replace human jobs and tasks. Virtual reality is in its infancy but the uses of that will become an integral part of our society. So to think that crypto currencies will go away is pretty silly when you step back and think what we'll be doing in 10 - 15 years from now. It might not be Bitcoin, it might not be IOTA or whatever but there will be some form of it and it will be the only currency worth using.
Fiat currency I wouldn't mind but it's... and forgive the cliche... literally not worth the paper it's written on. What's it backed with these days? They are just printing it and lending it and taxing / manipulating us with it, as they have for 1,000's of years.
I have ignored it for too long, which considering my trading history, I should not have left it for, "another day when I'm not busy".
When in our lifetimes will we get to witness a whole new currency become widely accepted and used more than most fiat currencies in the next 10 years?
I saw an article the other day that Venezuelans are playing old games like Runescape / Tiba so that they can mine gold in the game and sell it on auction sites to other players for $. Their own "fiat currency" is worth shit and they can make better money mining virtual currency sat in an internet cafe all day, 7 days a week. That's fucking crackers but I think a sign of things to come... |
Assuming you've also seen the announcement that Venezuela are going to make their own cryptocurrency also, to avoid blockades/sanctions etc. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Al Beeb Wireless 4 today had a piece on bitcoin where Gavin (or some other manky Scotch name) admitted that he'd lost £40,000 "buying" bitcoin options then months later when they were "worth" £300,000 he tried to cash out only to be stonewalled then eventually told that the "company" (Rainpal® stylee) was now "insolvent".
The giggle?
He's still buying bitcoins (he thinks) to try and cover his losses, and reckons there's at least another 5 years of mugs pumping money into what he cheerfully admitted was a bubble. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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My point was more that by trading options, he wasn't actually 'buying' the Bitcoins, and instead basically gambling on the movement?
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Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: | Isn't 'Options' basically trading on the volatility, ie contracts for difference? |
Yes, that's the magic words they used.
He thought he'd won bigly, turns out he'd just been pumping money down the drain rather than into the bubble.
The lulz is that being stung has just made him believe even more in the fruits of the magic bitcoin money tree.
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ThoughtControl wrote: | The Artist wrote: | I get that you think it's all dumb money but I would like to know at what point you will think BTC and other crypto's are legitimate currencies? BTC is currently $260b market cap. $500b? $1t? |
The day I can pay my bills and everyday real life purchases with it. When you can go into a Ducati dealership with your gorillion BTC wallet and buy their latest top of the range model. It's phantom money. If I have UK pounds then the UK gov has some interest in the value of it's currency, unless it wants to go full Zimbabwe. If I have US $, as Mr Borg has stated the US has a massive interest to see that it remains as a world reserve currency of some standing. Zimbabwe even uses US $ internally since it's own currency is toilet paper. The European Central bank has interest in it's own monopoly money. Besides speculators can you tell me who or what is the surety to the value of Bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency? It is like the Emperors new clothes, all it is waiting for is someone of some influence to point out the absence of their value, and enough people to follow that lead and it will all come tumbling down. |
You can go any buy stuff with it. Sure it takes time for larger corporations to update and I agree it is not actually usable for day to day transactions. There are plenty of other cryptocurrencies looking to fill that market but we are so early in the development of these things, who knows which one will be used.
Bitcoin feels like it could be the AOL of the internet era. It may not be the future, but its a damn good start and I am watching it closely.
Your argument about it not being a currency doesn't really hold up. That is what currencies are. They have no inherent value, they are just numbers and bits of paper that everyone agrees are worth something. In that way, it is the definition of a currency.
I have been reading posts like yours for that past 5 years and they never change. Even if some form of crypto becomes globally accepted, there will still be people wanting their government backed currencies.
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: | AEON anyone? Read that it's a fork of XMR? |
Aeon is not fungible. Privacy is optional therefore it cannot be truly private. However, it is interesting and could be what LTC is to BTC. I don't hold any though. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 132 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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