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Thought it was about time I adjusted the suspension on the 1250 to see if it helps the vibration thats appeared.
It has.
Must better with a slightly softer setting. ____________________ 1993 RF400R - 2002 Bandit 1200 - 2012 1250 FA |
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Posted: 01:24 - 10 May 2017 Post subject: |
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Since the fork change, I've gained stability and comfort, but lost the 250cc handling, the pick any line I want, brake any where I want, accelerate nearly anywhere etc
I was no longer hustling and on the boil and more heaving and on a simmer
It tipped in ok, but just before apex, had to use body weight, arms and pegs to heave it over and she understeered a little and I couldn't tighten the line if I got it wrong.
I'm exaggerating the description, but that's what it felt like. I was still fairly quick, but not "at one" with my motorcycle.
Had a day at work spent trying not to rage quit, much anger and frustration. All I could think is, you get one life, why the fuck are you wasting it here!?!?!?
Thinking about children in India getting gold from motherboards, people in Africa dying of dysentery and the very fortunate position I'm in by being born in England.....didn't help.
Came home and took the front end off my Striple again.
Put the forks back to +1mm on stock above yokes.
Backed out 1/3 turn of rear shock preload
Added 2 clicks of slow speed comp and took out 4 clicks of rebound. Left the Hi Speed comp alone for today.
Having re-read GoStar pages, it sounded like I might have too much rebound comp. Because the rear shock is staying compressed for too long and the front is unloaded into the bend.
Plus if the fork oil is too thick, then comp up front is slowed. But being basic forks, that kinda works both ways, thick oil slows rebound too. I have no adjustment up front beyond oil + springs + preload spacers.
So on the rear shock, less preload, more comp damping, less rebound.
On front, lowered forks back through yokes for comfort.
Didn't measure any sag. I know roughly where it is and this is just minor tweaks. I'll go by feel from now.
But feck me, what a result. The bike is sooo nearly back to its 250cc handling best, but with the added advantage of being significantly more comfortable. Relaxed riding position and a pretty smooth ride too.
I ragged her silly for 60 miles this evening across my favourite local roads. Braking later, getting on the throttle earlier. To the point where again, I'm so far behind the bike. Basically not breaking anywhere, just settling for a millisecond, throwing it in and getting straight on the gas again.
As a test, I came barrelling into a corner much faster than I would, then trail braked into the corner. No dive, let go of the brakes and no understeer.
Chickenstrips are the smallest they've ever been and the balance is now back to pushing the rear 1/3 more than the front (I feel happier this way).
I'm not saying I'm quick or competent. Simply that the mods have (finally) worked for me and I feel "at one" with the bike again, able to change direction, or line or apex without feeling tense, quite the opposite. And this is 6ft2 16 stone with a 46l topbox of tools + snacks.
I'm happy the spring rate is right, the oil level could probably come down 5mm and the weight down from 15w to 10w (after 30 miles hoon, the handling was getting better, which I assumed was oil thinning).
Quick around the twisty, narrow farm b-roads, stable on the wide sweeping NSL's
The near perfect compromise. She's all-day comfortable, but shown some twisties (even with a topbox full of crap) and we're onnit
Once again, she's all about the hustle
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OE sprocket carrier bearings, especially on Kawasakis, were often open and need to be repacked with a bit of grease occasionally. They rely on the outer seal for protection. Most decent bearing kits nowadays will come with a fully rubber sealed bearing (2RS) for the sprocket carrier. ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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Pigeon wrote: | M.C wrote: | I was thinking that, I checked online but as far as I could tell they were all the same. I'm going to have a hot bath but I will not cry |
Rated your post as funny, because it is.
That said, not far off being a very nice bike
I'm sure you'll crack it, just possibly with the occasional visit to the Workshop forum and maybe triumphrats forum or something.
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/browser/manufacturer/triumph
The part number of the axle bolt for my bike ('13)
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5596491/street-triple-from-vin-560477/front-wheel
Is the same as yours
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/9030/street-triple/front-wheel
Part T2000650
So surely it should fit. Can you try screwing in the axle without the wheel to make sure the threads aren't fecked or some other issue.
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Concluded I need an abba stand (inb4...), can't see a way to lift the (front of the) bike without removing the exhaust.
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Abba for the rear. Then you can get the Abba addition to do the front, but its pricey. Alternative, is a 2 tonne trolley jack for £30 off ebay + block of wood under the sump. |
I managed it with a car jack. I thought about removing the skid plate and raising the bike at the scene, but I only had my bottle jack with me. I think it was the angle of the bike and/or the camber of the road that was causing the issue.
Anyhoo just freed the pads with an assortment of kitchen utensils, it was surprisingly easy. Tried to clean up the discs with some sand paper in addition to the wire wool I used yesterday, they came up err... virtually the same :
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/15/13/82/47/img_2020.jpg
Might repaint the fork bottoms at some point (so almost certainly won't). |
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My local tyre place fitted a tyre for a fiver. They also replaced the valve on a woman's tyre for a fiver, I think they charge that for everything
Edit: glued the cracked mudguard, re-fitted it to the bike but now one of the brake cowls seems to be fowling the disc Also lubed the chain to within an inch of its life as it had started to get a bit rusty. |
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Hmm that's them I'll be honest I took them off in a hurry, but the way I put them back seemed to be the only way they fit. I'll have another look tomorrow. |
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Fitted those bits properly thanks to Pigeon Fixed the seat lock; the cable had popped out of its holder, but you can pop the seat off easily enough anyway. Small steps |
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Fitted ebc pads all round on the speed. Huge improvement even though I only had a 3 mile test ride. Unfortunately I've now realised how soft the front is under braking. The rear still seems to just be for show though
Not sure what was on before but they had plenty of 'life' left but lacked any initial bite at all. ____________________ || Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk |
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Pigeon wrote: | Don't know if its a Triumph / Brembo rear thing. But if there isn't a decent amount of travel in the rear brake pedal, then absolutely feck all happens at the back.
Even with 30mm travel, its still pretty crap. |
Found exactly the same on mine. Next to nothing from the rear brake. Not much fun when coming down the Hardknott Pass ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 349 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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