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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Bead Breakkkerrr? Reply with quote

Evening all.
Well in the spirit of spannering and such, I got some new tires and thought £30 to get two loose wheels re-tired was a bit high so <£20 and a couple of days and I have some levers, rim protectors and little valve tool.

The front tire was not to bad overall, breaking the bead proved quiet easy. Length of old door frame up to the rim (over the tire) and jump on it. Bish bosh bam and the bead is done.

The back tire on the other hand is proving a little more troublesome (BT45 on an NSR125).
No matter how much i jump (@ 12 stone I thought I'd do the job) it wouldn't budge.
So I got a car to drive up the piece of wood. Took it in its stride.
Bead ain't going anywhere.

Sooo, Can anyone thing of anything else I may try?
Running out of Ideas and after all that, dont fancy taking it in to get done Neutral

Much appreciation.

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Bead Breakkkerrr? Reply with quote

Ask and google shall provide Smile.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=DIY+bead+breaker
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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried that,
have just moved so my garage has the entirety of a shelf and not much else.
No materials to hand or even a drill.
May have to go scavenge a drill/bolts, was hoping there was some awesome non fabrication method I hadn't come across.

I really cannot get my head around how this bead is on there so strong!

Cheers though, will carry on trawling.

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about this 'design' - should just need the two pieces of wood and a couple of wood screws?

https://www.ibmwr.org/otech/beadbreaker1.jpg

Could later convert it to a more sophisticated design by adding a base instead of using the car.
(Or might be able to make up a base and use another block to make a little 'L' at the end to hold it in while it pivots.)
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried a club hammer and a really wide chisel? That's what I used to use on difficult beads in the scrapyard.
But it didn't matter if the rim got damaged so most of the time we just smashed the shit out of the general bead area and it would eventually budge.
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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 02:37 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G, bob on.
I should be able to find the wood but it's the fabrication that would have been tricky, however that setup above would be more than achievable with the minimalist kit I have to hand!
Same method but versatile execution.
Fantastic!

Much thanks.
Ps, if I fail with that, will brave asking a garage on the sly to break the bead. Don't trust tires and hammers heh.
Beat regards

-Jvr
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If not; have a look around for a tyre-specific place if you haven't.

Local place in Reading charged £5 a wheel for loose wheel tyre changes.

Much lower over-heads than a big bike garage as he didn't have much more than a shed; so probably 0-rated rates as well as low rent, only himself unless he was really busy, so no receptionist's wages to pay and his main hobby was bike racing, so a 'business expense'.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G clamps do the job very well.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
G clamps do the job very well.


Wide rear tyres have so little sidewall to work on, and as it starts to squeeze, the clamp or vice won't stay in place.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use a spade. But I've got an extra 4 stone to help persuade it to move Wink
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a bead breaker but i made this vid to show it can be done with a shovel and have done many times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXEMGn1F8_Y
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine looks like this:
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
nowhere.elysium wrote:
G clamps do the job very well.


Wide rear tyres have so little sidewall to work on, and as it starts to squeeze, the clamp or vice won't stay in place.


I've done it on 160 and 190 section tyres.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a mate with a bike handy, use the side stand, pop it out and put onto tyre and lean over on the bike using the side stand as a bead breaker.
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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only have the bike that it's off which is on a paddock stand.
Could prove a precarious approach heh.
Will try using a long length under the car jacking point with a block on there.
Am somewhat sceptical though as I had a car drive up a peice door frame resting on the tire up to the rim and it barely flinched.
If all else fails, will swing by the bike shop and have my pants pulled on the weekend 'shrugs'.

Cheers for the input though.

-Jvr
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