Do smelly goths and freaky gingers feel safe now?

[CaNsA]

Hate crime: Police record attacks on punks, emos and goths
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-22018888

Has it opened the flood gates for a "blanket hate crime" law to be abused by the police?
Why does charging someone with ABH/GBH not suffice?
Why does it need to be a hate crime?
This has only been done so the force can be seen to be actively combating something without actually doing anything.
More record keeping for record keepings sake.



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[Alpha-9]

Aren't all ABH/GBH crimes hate crimes?
Is rape a love crime?

Reminds me of that south park episode
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[chris-red]

It's bullshit ain't it, why is getting beaten up by chavs any worse if you have certain types of clothes on?
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[yaigi]

I can understand if 'hate crime' by definition is causing someone physical harm, but if simply saying something against someone because you 'hate' them is punishable by law then I would start to worry; I fear there may come a day when I will be arrested for simply saying I fucking hate the Tories.

Looking at the definition provided on Wiki:

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).

it would seem that (depending on the actual real wording of the law) if someone wanted to get you arrested for simply saying you wished them dead, then there's a chance they could. Every hormonal teenager will end up in prison when they have a fight with the parents

Yeah it's an extreme scenario I'm painting there, but I really don't see how this new inclusion of 'goths, punks etc.' will actually make any difference - you need to address the problem at it's cause, not once a crime has been committed.
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[yen_powell]

Does this mean the phrase, "He was beaten like a ginger step-child", should only be used with caution now?
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[nowhere.elysium]

[creepyginger]What our resident e-Matador CaNsA doesn't know is that the ginger clause is actually for the protection of all you soul-bearing types. We only come out to feed when we've been antagonised, see?[/creepyginger]

The Emos can go hang, though; we don't care about them.
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[pepperami]

I fugking hate short people!, fugking tiny bastards
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[ThoughtContro...]

It's called the, "It'll never affect me, I'm not a racist/criminal", crowd might possibly get to see just how draconian BS PC laws get to work in practice.

It'll probably be abused in the same manner that anti-terrorism legislation gets abused by councils, and you'll no doubt find that this stuff is very selectively enforced, as that's usually how this BS works. Protesting about something that some corrupt weasel in a position of influence doesn't like? You'll probably end up being done for such.

It might get the occasional scally scumbag, but I doubt it, and as has been pointed out, you already have existing laws to protect against assault and the like.

Here's a quandrary: If an Asian or other disadvantaged minority youth gets into a scuffle with another male youth dressed in black, and wearing eyeliner and make up, and they both call each other nasty names, then who gets done for the hate crime? I'd like to see the coppers scratch their heads over that one.

Maybe we'll have a "hate points" systems, for whoever is the most disadvantaged, or what nasty name(s) or term was used. I'll leave that to the PC bean counters, as I bet there's a well paying government/council position for some piece of useless slime to work this out and administer, and justify the importance of their position and the legislation using some grandiose language and some articles in the Guardian.

Never mind, you can cough up another few quid in tax to pay for it all. I'm sure you won't mind.
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[smegballs]

I'm not entirely sure that hate is such a big factor in the severity of a beatdown.

If I beat a white guy and a black guy both to within an each of their lives, did the black guy get a worse deal because the attack was racially motivated?

Logic would say that if both guys have equal injuries, then same amount of harm was done in both cases? It's not as if thinking "oh well, at least I wasn't beaten for the color of my skin" makes bones set any quicker and lasting damage any less painful.

On the other hand, what makes goths get special protection for the way they dress?? There's far more subcultures that wear silly clothes than goths, do hippies get this special protection too for wearing silly clothes? Hipster defence act anyone?

[_mjs_]

As a fascist with a predisposition for totalitarianism and executing or imprisoning social misfits and degenerates (like three out of four of all Britons seems to be these days), I naturally disagree with so called 'hate crime' legislation.

In fact, the thought of tanks rolling through town centres firing HE shells into crowds of screaming, effeminate goths in skinny jeans and big haircuts, crying as their skin peels off and their ipod buds fuse to their heads, and leaving nothing but an ironically blackened pile of corpses, brings a smile to my face.
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[covent.gardens]

I wish the media would highlight the disgrace that so few serious offenders including repeat offenders are sent to jail where they belong.

It's pointless introducing new laws when those who break current ones get away with it. The real scandal is in sentencing.

I guess introducing new but unnecessary laws makes them feel or look like they're doing something. But it won't change anything.

[_mjs_]

Did you learn about the no harm principle at college by any chance?

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[G]

I reckon a good game would be to see who could get themselves or someone else arrested for the weirdest minority.
An awful lot of "Jedis" according to the census.
Maybe "why yes, I do masturbate... and he used a derogatory word in regards to that"?


Also, taking odds on the first case of a police person listing "the police" as a "minority" and thus reporting someone who dislikes them for a hate crime.

[Flatbadger]

Attackers who are motivated by hate aren't concentrating properly.

Just deliver a cool, calm pasting and do the job properly. A dilligently beaten up emo couldn't possibly be the victim of a hate crime.

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[N cee thirty]

next time someone cunts me off my bike, i'l have them for hate crime against bikers.
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