CAR THREAD: Fake brakes and what not...

[Poseidon]

The old volly is making that tell tale sound that the rear brake pads are down to the metal. Considering I got an advisory for the wear level on them on its last MOT (6months ago) that's not bad going. Going to whap some new discs on her whilst I'm at it, as the old girl had been stood for quite some time before I bought her and they're looking a bit worse for wear.

The thing is, as the old girl is not a "performance" vehicle, and is driven by my very mature self... I don't see the need for anything too fancy as a replacement. However, I frequently carry 3/4 people plus scuba gear for everyone, so the brakes will have to cope with quite a bit.

I've priced up OEM pads and discs at £110 all in, both sides, but there are plenty of cheaper options out there. Pagid are £70 both sides, Eicher are 50quid both sides. Anyone got any experience of these cheaper ones? I should add that all of these prices are from pukka motor factors.

Looking on the bay reveals a whole host of wonderfully cheap products. However I live by the old adage of stuff being too good to be true... And my mind instantly says fake...

These'uns

Uber cheap

Allegedly OEM

The OEM ones I'm particularly attracted too.

Up till now, I've simply bobbed into the local motor factors (who I'd been using for years), had a bit of banter and walked out with pattern parts that I knew wouldn't be shonky. I'm now several hundred miles from them and it's pretty much the first time I've needed anything more than oil and wiper blades. Help, reviews and tips would be nice. Bearing in mind I transport my kids and pregnant wife in this car, so gambling on stuff being okay isn't an option.

Cheers folks
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[Irn-Bru]

I have used Eicher discs before, and basically the cheapest possible parts Euro Car Parts stock The car stopped with them on, would buy again A++++
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[Chalky.]

You'll find that rears do near enough fuck all anyway so cheapest will do the job adequately

Quite ofter the balance is 80:20 to the front.

[Chalky.]

[J4mes]

Pagid make an awful lot of the OEM pads anyway. I'm about to buy some for my discovery as they are around half the price of genuine LR ones, which will be made by someone else anyway.

I regularly carry 4 people, dogs, and tow trailers, as well as the vehicle itself weighing nearly 3 tons.

Pagid, mintex, ebc (although I think their redstuff pads are ropey) ferrodo are all good makes

[drzsta]

Just replaced my vivaros brakes and discs with eicher. It stops but I'm not sure how long they will last. Probably not long

[Poseidon]

Cheers for the replies gang.

Didn't realise there was quite so much bias towards the front brakes. I presume it's similar principles to racing where you want the front tyres loaded for more grip rather than the back end stepping out.

Thanks for the review on the various brands. I've probably used most of them before, I've just never really payed that much attention as the guys at the old place never steered me wrong.

The 40quid full rear disc & pad set delivered off the bay... Too good to be true?

clickety click
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1977 Honda CG125
2002 Ducati Monster S4 (currently restoring)

[Polarbear]

What shit do you think Kwikfit and co fit, OEM?

I'd happily fit the cheap stuff on 90% of cars.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

The FRONT discs and pads I fitted to my last car cost £45 and worked fine (Mintex) . You'll be fine with cheap rears on a family wagon.

[Poseidon]

[SpicyBlimp]

Them OEM volvo ones look good for the price, but a set of Mintex with pads for sub £50 can't go wrong with that.

[SpicyBlimp]

[J4mes]

Had them on a 440bhp Evo 8MR which saw serious fast road use, still think they were shit compared to Carbotech and Carbone Lorraine pads

[keggyhander]

Why do car parts shops call themselves Motor Factors?

[CaNsA]

[keggyhander]

[Chinaboy]

I like the Fred Flintsone style of brakes. No matter the cost, as long as it passes an MOT, jobs a good 'un.

[Poseidon]

[andyscooter]

so whats my ware house full of then

its because most of the stuff is in the ware house and you cant just pick it up off the shelf like you can in a shop

pagid and mintex are euro car parts cheap ones they will do the job but may find them noisy

ferrodo are better if you can find them we mainly have returns of pads with cheap discs being used

apec also seem to be ok we dont have many warrenties at all with them
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[karoshi]

I've used Mintex pads on cars before, no issues with them at all.

I'd be really surprised if you couldn't get standard Ferodo pads for the back of a Volvo s/v40 though? Halfords probably stock them, or Lucas pads if they don't have Ferodo.. wouldn't expect them to be more than ~£40
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[karoshi]

found these for a 1997 Volvo s40:

https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volvo_S40_1.8_1997/p/car-parts/car-service-parts/regular-service/brake-pads/?101660228&1&25b11ea8e97c343312f934070a5b4b4e4bb79b2b&000036

Pagid pads on sale? that's searching for a 1997 volvo s40 though, they have a little car finder box on the site to choose the right model/year?

Edit
Forgot link to rear discs also:
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volvo_S40_1.8_1997/p/car-parts/car-service-parts/regular-service/brake-discs/?104660308&1&d7b338e1c597989a895e5147985d616a00c8be44&000027
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[Poseidon]

55quid with free home delivery... I'll take that thankyouverymuch!!!


Top find sir!
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1977 Honda CG125
2002 Ducati Monster S4 (currently restoring)

[mattd]

Bought both front and rear Mintex discs and pads from exact same seller on Ebay (quality.car.parts) for my Volvo over 5 years ago and had absolutely no problems with them.

Like you I was wary of the cheap price, but going by the Volvo board chatter they are a decent enough make!

Rears are a pain in the backside as well, if the S40 is anything like my S70 there will be a small adjuster to back off the handbrake shoes in order to remove the disc (the disc acts as a drum brake). If the disc is well worn, they can become wedged in a grove....so don't be afraid to back it off as far as it will go and pound like hell with a mallet!

Also, if it's a high miler, replace the handbrake shoes - I skimped on this and they got so won eventually the lining fell out into the disc and locked the wheel!
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[cb1rocket]

Bought the cheapest I could find on eBay and half the price of motor factors. 30 quid got me a pair of front brake pads and discs. 15 quid a side, bargain for a mondeo!
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[hmmmnz]

the mintex (cheap ones you linked from ebay) are good wholesome german stuff, we have them on our passat and they are great
i recommend them
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