Bagram airfield crash

[Mr Nice Guy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/04/30/weather-may-have-played-role-in-horrifying-bagram-airfield-crash/

Incredible footage, but horrifying all the same.

RIP to those on board...
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[Tungtvann]

Bet it felt like one of those theme park rides that drops at an insane rate. Without the dying of course.

[Mr Nice Guy]

https://avherald.com/h?article=46183bb4
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[bikertomm]

That's awful

Imagine that pilots last moments as he knew there was no chance and he's responsible for the deaths.

Jesus
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[andym]

It is sad to watch things like that... but watching the video a couple of times I'm still trying to figure out how it happened. It looks like the plane was heading straight up to begin with then came down and tried to turn then straighten up with nowhere near enough room. Also I thought there were safety features on planes to stop then turning into instant fireballs, what the hell was his cargo for it to go up that quick

[Tungtvann]

[Gazza M]

Looked like it just stalled - maybe the cargo (whatever it was) wasn't strapped properly and shifted to the back of the plane, not a chance of recovering that. Safety features are designed for a crash landing with a bit of closing speed but nothing like that, as it's never meant to stall that catastrophically, ever.

I never like seeing these - my dad died in a plane crash in SA years ago
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Nasty. Not a hope of recovering that.
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[Bubbs]

Well that was oviously going to happen... you could plainly see the drive chain was slack....






....Also looked like the sub frame may have been twisted too.
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[Knightsy]

I understand the pilot was... fired?
I hate myself

In all seriousness though: Fucking hell
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[UnknownStuntm...]

FTA: “One army spokesperson said the crash occurred due to low altitude after takeoff”

No shit, I think the altitude went to about 0 right about the time of the impact. Derrrrr...

[Pete.]

I'm with Gazza that plane was stalled right from when it came into view. He recovered one tip-stall and then it went the other way.

Loose cargo or pilot error?
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[colin1]

I think it was loose cargo. If it was vehicles, maybe they rolled backwards. I don't know if they usually strap vehicles down or rely on the vehicles handbrake.

I don't think a pilot would be dumb enough to try a stall turn in a 747. Not even an american.

Having said that, American military pilots can be pretty stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtyUTLeW1g
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[The Artist]

I think it is safe to say it was either load moving around or mechanical failure. More likely to be the load moving though because the pilot seems to be able to turn the plane a bit.

Video shows just how big 747's are.

[The Black Baron]

I'd like to see the video of earlier.

It looks nose up and lack of airspeed, but who knows what caused it. The video does not show.

You can drop a wing and recover a stall, but that was too low for that that craft, obviously.

/these things happen/

[weasley]

The speculation I read was that normal take-off routine in areas like this (where aircraft could come under ground-based fire) is to take-off in a very steep ascent. Combine this with a sudden shift in cargo and you have a no-win situation, with no spare airspeed, no extra engine power to call on (as you'll be at full thrust for take-off anyway) and no altitude to play with.
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[Walloper]

Dreadful event but the bitching from the idiots posting their analysis on that page is unbelievable.
It's a bigger cock fight than anything Tubeface can produce from the mongs who 'comment' on there.

My 2p

It the load shifted enough to rock a 747 then it would not have been possible to 'recover' at that point. More likely pilot error or equipment failure.

Or maybe small arms fire took out the pilot.
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[Llama-Farmer]

Having viewed the video several times, its difficult to decide on a probable factor.

The nose pitched significantly up, the aircraft appeared to stall, and begin to autorotate.

The crew just about managed to get wings-level but could not recover.


Possible causes are weather (TS were forecast in the area I believe, there could well have been windshear or even a microburst), load-shift moving the CG well beyond the aft limit, or mechanical failure causing the elevator to command a pitch up.

At the moment it would just be speculation, and that's often completely wrong. (Air France 447 was originally speculated to have been a total avionics failure)