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PostPosted: 21:31 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Will 3D printing change the world? Reply with quote

https://www.wimp.com/printingchange/

I didn't know it had come such a long way already! Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was an article on the BBC a few days back, someone used a 3D printer to make the parts necessary to assembly and entire assault rifle Neutral
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
There was an article on the BBC a few days back, someone used a 3D printer to make the parts necessary to assembly and entire assault rifle Neutral


They really didn't. They used a 3D print the parts to make the lower, which would still require precision metal fabrication pieces for the pins and the barrel. Making a rifled barrel isn't easy.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=251397

nowhere.elysium's thread opened up my eyes to this well worth a read Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 04 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
Rogue_Shadow wrote:
There was an article on the BBC a few days back, someone used a 3D printer to make the parts necessary to assembly and entire assault rifle Neutral


They really didn't. They used a 3D print the parts to make the lower, which would still require precision metal fabrication pieces for the pins and the barrel. Making a rifled barrel isn't easy.


My fault, I was skim reading at lunch Laughing
Wasn't try to unnecessarily fear monger.

As a consumer, 3D printing will expand the market place and make it much more competitive. All the while being easier for new brands to launch.
It all good to me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's being used to great effect in the model building community, especially with model railways where people want a specific model that isn't available such as one of the prototype trains from the 70's

all they then need to do is get the body printed (normally through shapeways) and then modify a chassis from another model and they're away, pop the design in shapeway's store and other people buy it getting a bit of cash back for the time and effort put in.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get why "3d printing" is such a buzzword, if you expanding it into "3d printing/machining" it is a lot more exciting.

Does average Joe not know what a CNC 5-axis machining station is? (Don't answer that)

Even a normal old cnc mill is far more useful than a 3d printer when it comes to actually making useable objects that serve a purpose.

Do laser cutters come into the realm of 3d printing? They are pretty awesome too.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:


Do laser cutters come into the realm of 3d printing? They are pretty awesome too.


I use a laser engraver/cutter in my everyday business and it is great at what it does but it is just a tool.

3D printing will affect manufacturing to some degree but a mahoosive asteroid is more likely to change the shape of the future...
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if 3D printing now is to future tech, as the Gutenberg's Press was back when it was invented, then yes it will.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:


Even a normal old cnc mill is far more useful than a 3d printer when it comes to actually making useable objects that serve a purpose.

Do laser cutters come into the realm of 3d printing? They are pretty awesome too.


I'd say laser cutters don't come into the same realm as they do a different job from what I've seen.

Having used CNC machines I can see that there is a place for both, you can't CNC a flexible material, but you can print it.

you can't CNC something hollow, such as an easter egg, but you can 3D print it.

you can't 3D print a usable piston, you can CNC it.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
Well, if 3D printing now is to future tech, as the Gutenberg's Press was back when it was invented, then yes it will.


Spot on thx... 3D printing is a tech in it's infancy that is really beginning to show what is capable. Better materials, better machinery and all the other improvements will make it a technology that will change the future.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:


you can't 3D print a usable piston, you can CNC it.


yes you can, there are 3D printers that make things from metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9VOwqtOglg
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:


yes you can, there are 3D printers that make things from metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9VOwqtOglg


made from metal =/= strong as a machined component

There's no way that a sintered metal part will be as strong as part machined from a solid billet.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt it's going to open up a lot of new technologies and applications but the most interesting I've seen it used for is printing organs and blood vessels, like it touched on briefly in this video.

I saw a presentation were they had created all kinds of things, like an ear, a kidney, a heart, blood vessels, etc. I definitely believe that in the next 10 years, there will be companies that charge silly money to extract cells from you and create replacement organs and parts to transplant into you.

Need a heart? £50,000 thanks. Need a new finger? £5,000 please.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
made from metal =/= strong as a machined component

There's no way that a sintered metal part will be as strong as part machined from a solid billet.


For now. In the future (and I'm talking probably a long way off) people will say you can't hope to get a metal block that is as uniform as something produced by nano-sintering.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
Well, if 3D printing now is to future tech, as the Gutenberg's Press was back when it was invented, then yes it will.
This is pretty much the point of these home-grown kits; it's not that they're particularly good quality for your actual printed objects, more that they're a proof-of-concept to Joe Public.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first step towards replicators Very Happy (as in the star trek not sg1)

very excited, although it does open up a copyright minefield in our money driven world.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I can print my own booze, weed and whores is when I'll start taking an interest in it.

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PostPosted: 19:03 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure it is world changing. People with the skills and access to the equipment can already make most things (look at Chr15).

The idea of some random bod downloading a set of drawings and trying to knock up a car suspension arm is a touch worrying.

Strength of a blob of what is effectively weld from a 3d printer compared to a properly heat treated piece of metal is a biggy.

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PostPosted: 19:15 - 05 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gone will be the days of paper flyers dumped to blow all over city centres. Now businesses will print advertising objects and conveniently leave them in strategic places. Litter will increase exponentially. Well, if all goes as dystopian as I'm imagining it! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 06 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
smegballs wrote:


Even a normal old cnc mill is far more useful than a 3d printer when it comes to actually making useable objects that serve a purpose.

Do laser cutters come into the realm of 3d printing? They are pretty awesome too.


I'd say laser cutters don't come into the same realm as they do a different job from what I've seen.

Having used CNC machines I can see that there is a place for both, you can't CNC a flexible material, but you can print it.

you can't CNC something hollow, such as an easter egg, but you can 3D print it.

you can't 3D print a usable piston, you can CNC it.


That just about sums it up. Well said Black Sheep.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 06 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:


Strength of a blob of what is effectively weld from a 3d printer compared to a properly heat treated piece of metal is a biggy.

All the best

Keith


Quite so, sure your sintered AR15 bolt might look the part but I don't think those locking lugs are as strong as a machined, heat-treated chunk of 8620. I certainly don't think it's strong enough to be putting my head behind the thing and pulling the trigger.


Overall I guess it is pretty cool, especially the rep/rap stuff. Personally though, I'd be spending dollar on old style mill and a lathe before it crossed my mind to splash out on a 3d printer.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 07 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Sheep wrote:
you can't CNC something hollow, such as an easter egg,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY

You could always make it in 2 halves and put them together. Like an Easter egg.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Course it doesn't always go to plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKyiNiZD3sI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
oldpink wrote:


yes you can, there are 3D printers that make things from metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9VOwqtOglg


made from metal =/= strong as a machined component

There's no way that a sintered metal part will be as strong as part machined from a solid billet.


Have a search for 'DMLS'. There are a few companies that can do this, like 3Trpd
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