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SteveSmith
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Chain lube on my brakes Reply with quote

This is probably a bit of a newbie question / schoolboy error, so feel free to take the piss, but I'd be grateful if you could be vaguely nice about it!

I cleaned and lubed my chain over the weekend on my Bandit 600. I've had the bike about 5 months, it's my first bike and that's the 2nd time I've oiled the chain, but the first time I've cleaned it (who knew it was supposed to be silver?)

The bike sat in the garage for a couple of days after doing it until I took it out to go to work yesterday morning. After a mile or so I noticed that my back brake was getting weaker and weaker to the point where it barely worked at all. On inspection, I realised that my newly oiled chain had splattered lube all over the back wheel, swingarm and brake disc.

That didn't happen last time I oiled the chain. Where did I go wrong?

Thanks,

Steve.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You put too much on.

ffs...seriously...?!
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

The chain is the opposite side to the caliper so how much lube did you put on the thing?

Next time you lube the chain, leave it for a few minutes and then wipe the excess off. Oh and put a bit less on. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ that's what I was thinking, the 2 things are on opposite sides of the rear wheel. Confused

I don't suppose you've used a spray on lubricant have you, and been facing teh sprocket when spraying - thus, squirting it also through the wheel and onto the brake disc?
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You use your back brake? Razz

Sounds like you quite literally put a bucket load on it, best thing to do is brake cleaner all over the disc and replace the pads, cheap thing to do it brake cleaner all over the brake and stand on it at 60, should burn some of the lube off Very Happy

(don't literally stand on it... you'll fall off)
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

FazerRuss wrote:
^^ that's what I was thinking, the 2 things are on opposite sides of the rear wheel. Confused

I don't suppose you've used a spray on lubricant have you, and been facing teh sprocket when spraying - thus, squirting it also through the wheel and onto the brake disc?


Yes, it was a spray on lubricant. I wasn't aware that I was pointing it towards the sprocket, but then I wasn't really thinking about it so I may well have been. I won't be doing that again!

It's amazing how obvious these things seem after you've cocked them up.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
You use your back brake? Razz

Sounds like you quite literally put a bucket load on it, best thing to do is brake cleaner all over the disc and replace the pads, cheap thing to do it brake cleaner all over the brake and stand on it at 60, should burn some of the lube off Very Happy

(don't literally stand on it... you'll fall off)


Thanks yes, I've been dragging it lightly around town, and it does seem to be sorting itself out. I'll give it another couple of trips and if it hasn't cleared it the pads are coming out.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote the Hayne's Manual (I think it was the Hayne's...):

"If you have oil on your brake disks, don’t sweat it. I rode 160 miles 2up with no front brake. The master of all bodge jobs, bodge jobbing the bodge job by avoiding doing a bodge. Pro. If it’s really worrying you then take it out for a spin. Get it to a high speed and brake harshly. If the brake doesn’t work, you’re doing it right. Avoid corners doing this unless you like hedges. Once your brake disk gets hot enough it will burn the oil off and your disk will work like new.
Your brake disk will get very hot. Very, very hot. Do not touch it. I mean it. It hurts. Yes, even with gloves. Yes, I tried it. You’re still going to touch it aren’t you? That hurt, didn’t it? Thought so."
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
You use your back brake? Razz

Sounds like you quite literally put a bucket load on it, best thing to do is brake cleaner all over the disc and replace the pads, cheap thing to do it brake cleaner all over the brake and stand on it at 60, should burn some of the lube off Very Happy

(don't literally stand on it... you'll fall off)


I barely use my front brake in the city. Forwards planning means I don't need much braking power. Also if I can anticipate a stop using just the rear brake and something unexpected happens in front, I have loads of braking force left to go.

Snorty wrote:
To quote the Hayne's Manual (I think it was the Hayne's...):

"If you have oil on your brake disks, don’t sweat it. I rode 160 miles 2up with no front brake.


I didn't tell my girlfriend though, she would have killed me. Laughing

Just go for a ride and drag your rear brake. It'll get really hot and you're back in business.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I'm cleaning/lubing the chain I put some newspaper or an old t-shirt between the wheel and chain to stop paraffin/oil going all over the tyre and wheel.

If you're using a spray lube, another good idea is to hold a piece of cardboard behind the chain so it doesn't go all over the place.

You should lube the chain when its warm (after a ride) so the lube can penetrate (giggity) into the links better.
Only lube the inside of the chain run as centrifugal force will force it into the outer links.
Wipe any excess off after allowing it to soak for at least 30 minutes to reduce fling off on the rear wheel.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueCB wrote:
When I'm cleaning/lubing the chain I put some newspaper or an old t-shirt between the wheel and chain to stop paraffin/oil going all over the tyre and wheel.

If you're using a spray lube, another good idea is to hold a piece of cardboard behind the chain so it doesn't go all over the place.

You should lube the chain when its warm (after a ride) so the lube can penetrate (giggity) into the links better.
Only lube the inside of the chain run as centrifugal force will force it into the outer links.
Wipe any excess off after allowing it to soak for at least 30 minutes to reduce fling off on the rear wheel.


Good idea. Never thought of that.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorty wrote:
BlueCB wrote:
When I'm cleaning/lubing the chain I put some newspaper or an old t-shirt between the wheel and chain to stop paraffin/oil going all over the tyre and wheel.

If you're using a spray lube, another good idea is to hold a piece of cardboard behind the chain so it doesn't go all over the place.

You should lube the chain when its warm (after a ride) so the lube can penetrate (giggity) into the links better.
Only lube the inside of the chain run as centrifugal force will force it into the outer links.
Wipe any excess off after allowing it to soak for at least 30 minutes to reduce fling off on the rear wheel.


Good idea. Never thought of that.


How to lube a motorbike chain.

Ho to the rear of the bike with the rear wheel off the ground/floor. Rotate the rear wheel as you do this aim the spraylube at the teeth of the sprocket and carefully spray a light coating of lube to reach the rollers and side plates of the chain. Smile

Or fit a Scotoiler and you won't have to phaph again.
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