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PostPosted: 07:39 - 09 Nov 2008    Post subject: computer training courses for learners. Reply with quote

Does anyone know any good online training couses that i can download that will offer very basic pc skills for a beginner?

My dad (who's 72) wants a pc and has been looking at spending about £350 on a new one. Now i'm all for people learning and i've no problem with him getting one, but he knows absolutely nothing about them and watching him trying to do anything on one is painfull. He keeps picking the mouse up and trying to point it at things, he seems unable to grasp double clicking and when he tries he generally moves the mouse so that by the time he's managed 2 clicks he's no longer pointing at anything. Embarassed

My uncle had persuaded him he needed a pc and decided to take it upon himself to give him his old one. trouble is, he wanted the contents of the hdd so he took that out.
What he gave my dad was a 5 year old tatty base unit minus the hdd, no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse and obviously no O/S.
"Your lad can easily get it running for a few quid" he told him.

I had a few bits lying about so i got it running ok, although I couldn't find drivers for the soundcard so it has no sound. not really a problem. I've just gaven him the pc, but he hasn't got a clue what he's supposed to do with it. I can't let him loose on the net unsupervised if he cant drive the damn thing so its just a basic pc running xp and has office installed.

I figured that rather than blow £300+ on a new pc it would be better for him to learn the basics on a simple pc, then if he gets on with it he can go out buy one then.
I've given him a couple of windows 98 learner guides, but thought that maybe I could download a basic training course and stick it on the pc for him so he can do that. trouble is I cant find anything and I dont really have to time to write one myself.
Anyone got any suggestions??


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PostPosted: 10:15 - 09 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: compter training courses for learners. Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
Does anyone know any good online training couses that i can download that will offer very basic pc skills for a beginner?

My dad (who's 72) wants a pc and has been looking at spending about £350 on a new one. Now i'm all for people learning and i've no problem with him getting one, but he knows absolutely nothing about them and watching him trying to do anything on one is painfull. He keeps picking the mouse up and trying to point it at things, he seems unable to grasp double clicking and when he tries he generally moves the mouse so that by the time he's managed 2 clicks he's no longer pointing at anything. Embarassed


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Owdamer wrote:

I figured that rather than blow £300+ on a new pc it would be better for him to learn the basics on a simple pc, then if he gets on with it he can go out buy one then.
I've given him a couple of windows 98 learner guides, but thought that maybe I could download a basic training course and stick it on the pc for him so he can do that. trouble is I cant find anything and I dont really have to time to write one myself.
Anyone got any suggestions??


This one looks like it might do the job: https://www.spclc.org/curriculum.html

You'll have to download and unzip it and then use a .PDF reader to read it, but it covers all the important parts for a beginner.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 09 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

get him an asus EEEPC , with linux on it and probably a USB keyboard and monitor on it.... as the EEEPC901 screen is tiny and the keyboard isn't so good either.

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You can restore it to factory settings in 30 seconds the old F9 trick if he messes it up... can't do that on windows.

Its cheap about 300 or less over seas for a 901 or a 904,

you can stick a touch screen on it as per JKK mobile's website (a fairly easy mod so he can point at things directly on the screen if he wants its a 50 quid mod.

Being linux even though iptables doesn't work for the stripped down version of Xandros it has much fewer vulnerabilities than windows , such that when something downloads onto your desktop which you don't want it to do it can do very little. configure the KDE advanced desktop and its pretty much windows but with a few missing things, but all the important things ie audacity , gimp , MSN , skypeare all on it though

Its also upgrades differently to windows and thus unless you know how to open a terminal and get yourself into root , there is little damage you can do to the OS and if you do you can use the F9 trick. Windows of almost all flavours lets you go into the OS files drivers and whatnot and happily in the GUI delete core files and stuff.

Also if the Kernel is kept upto date it really is plug and play functional for all sorts of stuff.

Beware though the linux SSD 901 does not have the ability to stick a HDD in it, without some seriously difficult soldering thus the 904 might be a better choice as it has the HDD in it.


Oh and if you want there are some small invisible programmes you can use to monitor him via the webcam and the internal mic .
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 09 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
get him an asus EEEPC , with linux on it and probably a USB keyboard and monitor on it.... as the EEEPC901 screen is tiny and the keyboard isn't so good either.

reasons:


You can restore it to factory settings in 30 seconds the old F9 trick if he messes it up... can't do that on windows.

Its cheap about 300 or less over seas for a 901 or a 904,

you can stick a touch screen on it as per JKK mobile's website (a fairly easy mod so he can point at things directly on the screen if he wants its a 50 quid mod.

Being linux even though iptables doesn't work for the stripped down version of Xandros it has much fewer vulnerabilities than windows , such that when something downloads onto your desktop which you don't want it to do it can do very little. configure the KDE advanced desktop and its pretty much windows but with a few missing things, but all the important things ie audacity , gimp , MSN , skypeare all on it though

Its also upgrades differently to windows and thus unless you know how to open a terminal and get yourself into root , there is little damage you can do to the OS and if you do you can use the F9 trick. Windows of almost all flavours lets you go into the OS files drivers and whatnot and happily in the GUI delete core files and stuff.

Also if the Kernel is kept upto date it really is plug and play functional for all sorts of stuff.

Beware though the linux SSD 901 does not have the ability to stick a HDD in it, without some seriously difficult soldering thus the 904 might be a better choice as it has the HDD in it.


Oh and if you want there are some small invisible programmes you can use to monitor him via the webcam and the internal mic .


Lots of PCs let you restore to factory defaults very easily nowadays.

The biggest problem with Linux is lack of support if things go wrong. There are lots of people out there with a good knowledge of windows but far fewer with Linux/unix skills.

You're already mentioning iptables, kernels and configuring desktops. Not the sort of thing a novice user want to hear or would have any clue about.

For a new (and older) user I'd stick with the herd and go Windows.

There are a few online courses here: Alison

The Dummies guides are also good.

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PostPosted: 08:18 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:44 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In regards to using windows XP a video introduction tutorial guide to watch!

https://www.top-windows-tutorials.com/free-flash-tutorials.html

common windows files

https://www.top-windows-tutorials.com/free-windows-tutorials.html

Another windows text based tutorial and it even has help for Office programs

https://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/bc/beginnerscomputing.html#xp_tuts

Another one which you may like similar style but maybe better for him

https://www.baycongroup.com/windows_xp/index.htm
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Re: computer training courses for learners. Reply with quote

gone away wrote:

What he gave my dad was a 5 year old tatty base unit minus the hdd, no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse and obviously no O/S.
"Your lad can easily get it running for a few quid" he told him.

I had a few bits lying about so i got it running ok, although I couldn't find drivers for the soundcard so it has no sound. not really a problem. I've just gaven him the pc, but he hasn't got a clue what he's supposed to do with it. I can't let him loose on the net unsupervised if he cant drive the damn thing so its just a basic pc running xp and has office installed.



Does the base system have make & model no. stamped on it/labeled and was the soundcard added by you and, if so, do you know make & model of that one too? You may need a Northbridge driver before it would recognise the soundcard and I had that problem with an AMD based computer.

I know you need to have patience with him because it's a whole new world for him and especially he will need a decent internet security software to protect the system from being corrupted.

All he needs is a basic computer to allow him to surf for information or even order stuff online, but REMEMBER to tell NEVER click on an email if he is unsure of it just in case its malware/virus.

You can save his important personal files & drivers, etc, on a data storage key for safe keeping if you ever need to get them back onto the system which will be easier than burning to cd/dvd.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

get him a tablet instead, much simpler and by the sounds of his purposes for wanting one a tablet will do
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, guys, the threads 4 years old. Its only up because a spam bot bumped it...
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

...could be a very thorough long drawn out decision?

that or I didn't read much of that ^

and i'm half braindead
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 14 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

James83 wrote:
lol, guys, the threads 4 years old. Its only up because a spam bot bumped it...


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