F*ck You Front Brake....

[j.silvs]

So to those of you not in the know I have a fake leg on my right hand side (back brake).

In the last week I have dropped my bike twice!! I keep turning slowly and then if I panic I grab the bloody front brake resulting in my bike on the floor or on someones car in traffic - woops lol.

Anything that anyone can suggest which gets that panic away?

[chris-red]

Do more training, you shouldn't be riding a bike if you panic and grab the front brake while turning.
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[j.silvs]

Haha thank you Mr. DSA..

Unfortunately they actually gave me a pass certificate but just don't fancy going back asking for it to be revoked.

[Timmeh]

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Get your entry speed and gearing sorted BEFORE you turn.

You cannae use front brake and steer at the same time, the bike will either understeer or tip you off, as you have already discovered.


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[P.addy]

Can you use the back brake at all? Consider getting a 2nd lever next to your clutch for your rear brake like stunters do.

[Sable]

Feckless Sabbles idiot moment.

When I did my test, I saw something online that had all the distances for the Mod 1 cones. I got some jumpers and spare gloves, found a car park, and spent quite literally days perfecting my slow riding. It took a bit before I could do my U-Turn in 7.5 foot, which is a single car park bay in Tescos by the way. I nailed it, then kept practising and practising for weeks leading up to my Mod 1.

Went on my Mod 1. Oh right... The U-Turns 7.5 metres.....

Story still stands though. A few days of going as slow as I could around some jumpers, and I can do slow manoeuvres brilliantly. I really want to try MotoGymkhana because of it, but cant find any local groups to try it at MotoGymkhana needs more internet presence than just FaceBook.

[chris-red]

[j.silvs]

To use the back brake it requires me to make a massive move with the leg that just doesn't happen on instinct.

Its when I panic that's the problem. Was thinking about the thumb brake option...

Was only messin with you Chris, will defo consider more training.

[Sable]

What is actually causing you to panic? Other vehicles? A bit of wobble/lack of balance? Bad clutch control?

[Timmeh]

OP buying a K7 Gixxer might have something to do with it.
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[map]

I can't see how the leg issue would stop you using the usual slow speed techniques of back brake and feathering the clutch with throttle constant. I'm thinking the method for U turn in the road here.

That's just down to practice and confidence.

When you say slow turning how slow?
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[P.addy]

Thumb brake or 2nd lever on the left might work.

If you wanted to get funky, you could make a brake pedal on the left footpeg so you push down on the peg with your heel to brake.

Effort. More so than a 2nd lever on the handle bar but would be cool

[Irn-Bru]

If you can't use the rear brake pedal properly get a handlebar lever like Paddy says, otherwise low speed manoeuvring just won't be as easy or safe with only front.
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[Rogerborg]

Well, your balls are clearly still intact.

Have you got in touch with NABD and asked if they have any suggestions?

Could be hooking you up with someone who understands the issue, could be advice or funding to mod your bike.
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[Acemastr]

I don't touch my rear brake, but then I also don't do U turns in a roads width either

I can't picture this panic thing, at what moment are you panicking? at what speed? if you find yourself in trouble and it feels like it's going to go over then give it loads of revs and slip the shit out of the clutch, you won't go anywhere really but it'll bring the bike back to composure and allow you time to do something about it.

Hydraulic actuator to put a right hand sidestand down would be pretty uber if you felt it going too
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[DrDonnyBrago]

Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere (https://www.nabd.org.uk/adaptions/javaindex.htm)

[MarkJ]

[stinkwheel]

Another vote for thumb brake. Commercially available for supermotos.

If money is a factor, an upside down master cylinder on the left handlebar (needs to be of the remote reservoir type) and shortie lever

Try to program yourself to roll off the throttle if you think you're going too fast.

First thing to do any time you need to slow down or stop is to close the throttle. Often it's enough by itself.

Practice moving off, then rolling off the throttle to slow down then coming to a complete halt with the back brake. Keep doing it until it's sunk in. That's the first thing I do with anyone I'm showing how to ride a bike for the first time. We don't touch the front brake on the first outing.
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[j.silvs]

Thanks all.

I dont really want to mention why I am panicking (legal bits and bobs - big bro is watching

Have spoken to the NABD but the only thing I thought might be a grey area is that I have not passed my test with the adaption so am I allowed to use it?

Its seriously not my riding ability but the panic thats causing this. Again cant go into much detail. The rev and clutch seems like a good idea to start with tho.

And it has nothing to do with being on GSXR, would be the same on a CG125

[Shinigami]

I'd say the panicking was the main issue, surely with the break in a different place you'd still be panicking?
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[P.addy]

Not mentioning the reason, dude chill. I did 150mph today on 1 wheel with no helmet.

What they gonna do But no.. obviously didn't happen.

Just fit another braking system, it won't matter, you are free to fuck with your bike how you want.

[j.silvs]

haha fair enough.

See with the panicking I am able to reach for something if I learn it enough - but trying to use an ankle thats not there is a different matter. I can do it whne I think about it but thats not panick.

Basically I get flashbacks at certain places from my accident and still suffer when on the bike. I try to avoid situations where this happens but if it resembles my accident then off goes my hair lol = panic

[P.addy]

I used to pass the place where I had my major accident far less than I did in the past... purely because I get quite scared at the junction. But fuck it, I just made a point of doing it daily.

If you are getting worried about it, reconsider the biking aspect buddy...

[Alpha-9]

Fake leg and on a GSXR600
OP is a leg-end ( )

Just don't do it, and get a rear brake at your hands definitely, you need the back brake!
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[Shinigami]