Yamaha ysr50

[LittleLucy]

So, I'm a very short 5" female new rider. I was looking to get a ysr50 for the novelty of having a miniature sports bike to practice on (id get a full sized 125 before I took the test) but I've seen it listed alot as a sports moped. Can anyone confirm this? Im looking for something with gears on obvs and its the nicest looking thing on the short bikes list. If anyone knows of any fashionable short 125's throw them my way too please

[-bandit]

just get a 125

[PaulS]

Check out Suzuki VanVan
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CBT: 16 Feb 2012.
Theory: 2 Sep 2013 - failed the *#!@ Hazard Perception!!
2012 Yamaha YBR 125 (5 Apr 2012).

[N cee thirty]

might be worth getting a 125 with a cutdown seat

a ysr is well, funny in every way possible and hard to get hold of one.
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[andy_uk]

[Az]

id go straight onto a 125 if i was you and the smallest sporty 125 i can think of is the old cbr (before 2011) seat heights like 770mm which is pretty low (same seat height as the suzuki van van) it's also a light bike so u shouldnt struggle to push it while sat on it.

If i was you i wouldn't get a sports bike and just get a cruiser as u may struggle to find a sports bike that you can fit on and ride comfortably. Last thing u want is not to be able to support ur bike at a pair of traffic lights and fall off.
Cruiser's have a much lower seat height or a YBR 125 as there also proper short bikes.

[Sako]

Are you overweight.


If the answer is 'yes' then I would steer clear of the 50cc, and also consider the Atkins.

[Rogerborg]

Height doesn't mean much, it's all about the thighs inside leg.

I agree about the CBR125, it's a lovely, petite little thing.
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[Teflon-Mike]

The YSR50 is a novelty. A big kids toy. They called it a Gag bike when they were new. Its a bit of a giggle, and something to have a bit of a laugh with at a bike meet... its NOT a learner bike.

1/ Its not a moped. It may be 50cc but it makes over 7bhp as stock. That means it doesn't qualify to be registered as a moped, which must be under 3.5bhp and or limited to under 30mph or so. Its a motorbike.

2/ its short. its small wheeled and its incredibly unstable. This is NOT good for a learner to get to grips with learning to ride... before you add a highly tuned little engine that has to be worked hard to get it to do anything useful... or a cramped uncompromised riding possition to try and waggle gears and stuff from!

3/ Its not even very light! Specs say 92Kg! Thats only a couple of bags of sugar less than my air-cooled Yamaha DT175MX was, and that was a full sized, motorcycle with an engine three and half times the displacement! Why this is relevent I'm not too sure to be honest... other than the statistic rather amazed me! Where does such a little bike put so much mass! But anyway.

I once had the misfortune of having to give a girl who had bought a full power Derbi 50, which is a similar natured device (full power not a moped, incredibly peaky 50) a CBT course. She had bought it because a) it was pretty. b) it was light so she thought that would make it easy to manage c) it wasn't very fast and she thought that would mean it wouldn't be too scary.

It did her confidence absolutely NO good, stalling the thing every time she tried to pull away from a stand still, or when I got her to rev it, so it wouldn't stall.... screwing her eyes up, and turning her head away from the noise and asking mutely "Is it going to blow up!" then having it try and hop the front wheel when she clumsily dumped the clutch with the throttle pinned! The slow speed maneuvering was even worse, with restricted steering lock and poor balance, and during the day when she had moved up a group or two... she actually rode the thing into a brick wall.. and was sent back to me for more confidence building! I DID manage to get her up to speed and on the road, incredibly, BUT boy! did that little bike make it hard work for her!

GET A PROPPER 125 - YBR, CBF, CG! A regulation Learner-Commuter - they just do what it says on the box!

Your 5ft... thats actually an inc taller than a lilliputian lady freind of mine, who probably weighed 6 stone wringing wet and used to ride an old, 1960's era Triumph Bonaville 650, as an every day bike. Kick-start only, she put the boys to shame showing how its all about technique not mass or muscle when it comes to kicking a bike like that into life, or rolling one onto its stand, or paddling it around in and out of parking spaces.

If she can manage a Bonny - sure you ought to be able to manage a little YBR or similar! But if you want to check it out, they do a slightly cruisereish 'custom' version with a lower stepped saddle.

There is also the YBR 'Custom's ancestor, the SR125 thats a very useful and hardy little commuter, that can often be picked up for bargain prices. Another to ponder is the Honda CM125 twin, which is another semi-cruiser, with low seat; and very smooth, if not very powerful twin cylinder engine. Later versions were badged the 'Rebel' and are the basis of a lot of more modern Chinese 125 cruisers.

BUT, and I say it time and time again., DONT get obsessed by seat height stats!

Tall fella's are the same, and want biog tall dirt bikes, becouse the seats a long way from teh floor, while short girls get pointed at cruisers 'cos the seats close to the floor.

On CBT you ought to be tought 'The Safety Position'. This is how you sit on a bike that is stopped, like at a junction or in traffic, or whatever.

Both hands on the bars, right hand covering, but not applying front brake. Bum on saddle. LEFT foot on the floor, propping bike up. RIGHT Foot on the peg, covering or applying rear brake to hold the bike stationary on an incline.

Ie: you ought ONLY have your left foot on the floor, and if the seat is a big high, JUST means that when you are in the Safety Poss... you might be a tad more leaned to the left!

You dont flat-foot to the floor noth sides in normal stopping, and when riding.... the IMPORTANT DIMENSION is not how far off teh floor your arse is, but how far from yoru arse the foot-pegs are! THIS is not often quotred in the manufacturers specs.... and even if it WAS.... whether its comfy or not depends on not just the distance but how you might have to bend your legs or lean your back to put your feet there!

And defying the logic that low seat height cruisers must be good for shorties, and tall seat dirt bikes good for lanks... NO.

Low riding cruioser puts bum close to floor, but forward located foot-pegs out infront of the engine can mean little legs cant reach the frigging back brake of gear-lever properly!

High-Riding dirt bike, puts bum a long way from floor... but conversely... high ground clerance under the engine means the pegs are often lifted right up out the way, and can be closer and more painfully possitioned under riders back-side than on a conventional commuter!

Seriousely, I mentioned my DT175... that was a dirt bike, and it had a 32" seat height, useful when I have a 34" inside leg.... but with 14" of air under the engine, the pegs were 16" off the floor so only 16" from the saddle, making it rather cramped for me when riding.

My O/H (5'5" and 30" legs) had a Chinese Honda Rebel Copy.... 24" seat height, and pegs only 6" off the deck... a mere 18" difference so more favourable than the Dirt-Bike.... ONLY they were also pushed forwards to infront of the engine, so actually about 26" away from the saddle.... quite comfy for me.... but poor Snowie once stretched out could barely work the gear or brake levers! I had to modify them for her!

We both ride CB125 Super-Dreams. Seat height is quoted at 30". Footpegs are conventionally located, about on the verticle line through where you sit your bum, and are about 6" off the floor, so about 24" from the saddle. This is a pretty neutral riding position, and with elegs slightly bent, one size pretty much fits all, and Snowie rides one with her little legs as easily as I do mine with my long ones. But the Super-Dream is a reletively largish 125, physically. CG or YBR or EN, or CBF are all a little lower in the seat, and probably have the foot-pegs slightly ahead of axis through the arse, which makes them a tad more 'sit up and beg' neutral and even more one size fits all, 'control position' motorcycles.

In short. Ignote brochure seat height specs, they mean bog all. Dont follow the notion that low seat cruiser will necesserily be better and a high seat dirt bike worse for a shorty.. go sit on some bikes, and a) adopt the safety possition; Hands on bars, bum on seat, left foot on floor, right on peg covering the brake. See how it feels. b) Put bike on stable surface on the centre stand and or get some-one to hold it up for you while you sit it as if riding, both feet on the pegs hands on the bars.. see how it feels. c) in each scenario, move the handle bar through full steering movement, lock to lock, and try working ALL the controlls.

The erganomics of all machines are different, and the width and shape of the seat matters, the curve and contours of the tank matter, placement of levers matters, how much you can move around on teh seat matters, all as much as peg to seat to bar dimensions....

What Does NOT bludy matter very much is how high of the frigging floor the seat happens to be! EVEN come trying to swing your leg over it to get on! Having a raised pillion seat or a wide saddle or just a rack or top box will.... how high it is at rest doesn't... it REALLY doesn't!
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[PaulS]

Don't think we picked up why OP was talking about a 50cc (i.e. not yet 17?). If 17 or over then don't even think about a 50cc, can't keep up with traffic etc., get a 125, etc.

Incidentally I'm not exactly a sky-scraper at 5' 8" and yet can get both feet on the deck so easily on my YBR (not custom) that it feels 'low'.
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CBT: 16 Feb 2012.
Theory: 2 Sep 2013 - failed the *#!@ Hazard Perception!!
2012 Yamaha YBR 125 (5 Apr 2012).

[Teflon-Mike]

[Linux]

Quite a lot of 125's all come in at about 780mm seat height give or take.

There's a few things that comes to mind which should allow you to at least tip toe when sat on these bikes.

Buy a used seat of ebay or from a breakers yard for what ever bike you go with, and go to youtube for video guides on how to remove the foam padding to a point where it's still comfortable but now only half the thickness.

Depending on the bike, you may be able to lower the front end via the yolks and set the rear shock to the softest setting so it gives more when sat on the bike.

Buy a decent pair of biking boots.


Or you could go with a cruiser style bike.

https://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/kawasaki_eliminator_125_2010.php
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[Rogerborg]

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