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PostPosted: 14:21 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused


Wouldn't that require humans to have a fear of rat's tails?


I'm quite comfortable with snakes and I have about 50 rat tails in a freezer (DIY rat tail collagen)...

https://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v1/n6/images/nprot.2006.430-F1.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

Yeah....that's the way it worked IIRC, something to do with plague maybe?? It's so long ago I heard this, may even been at school Shocked


Sounds like bollocks tbh mate, we've been getting bitten by snakes for much longer than we've recognised how rank rats can be. Snakes are also the subject of many myths/legends which probably contributes significantly to the Western fear of them. Other continents couldn't give a crap about snakes.


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what's rat tail collegen used for then? Confused


Growing human skin cells in a way that resembles real skin.

If you grow human cells in a single layer in a dish, they tend to behave funny. If you use a plug of collagen you can make them behave more like real human tissue because they can grow on top of each other.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would a fear of plague-ridden rats develop when it wasn't known that rats carried the plague?
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

By that logic, shouldn't we also run around screaming at the sight of string?

No, I'd imagine the fear of snakes is due to the fact that they are quite intimidating in the looks department, move in a creepy fashion, and strike very fast. And cavemen would watch their fellow brethren scream, writh, convulse and forth at the mouth before ceasing to move on a permanent basis having been bitten by one. That seems a more plausible theory to me.

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PostPosted: 15:05 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't know snakes were poisonous? Venomous yes, poisonous no.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Didn't know snakes were poisonous


Some are...

Rhabdophis tigrinus (Japanese grass snake) eats poisonous toads and becomes poisonous as a result Wink .
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have it the wrong way round.

I actually saw a snake wrangler tv show. There were all these Indian(?) looking people running about like loons because there was a snake spotted in a pile of husks. Snake man comes in, takes one look and says it's a rats tail. He pulls the dead rat out and then explains that's what the snakes are looking to eat, not to bite humans.

So it makes sense that people are scared of rats tails as they resemble snakes. Another possibility, although not so much in the UK, is that where there are rats/mice, there could be snakes that eat them.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awe FFS BCF, what kind of people are visiting this forum now-a-days?

The fear of snakes goes back to Genesis.
When Phil Collins fell out with Peter Gabriel. Someone called someone else, 'a low lyin' snake in the grass.' and flounced out the band.

That is where the inherently instinctive and morbid fear of serpents comes from.

If you google Snakes and Genesis it throws up the wiki page.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Rhabdophis tigrinus (Japanese grass snake) eats poisonous toads and becomes poisonous as a result Wink .


You really do know some weird shit Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Rhabdophis tigrinus (Japanese grass snake) eats poisonous toads and becomes poisonous as a result Wink .


You really do know some weird shit Laughing


There are insects which eat poisonous plants and become poisonous. It's not 'uncommon'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRdLIsVrGm4

I know a few poisonous bastarts.
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PostPosted: 03:00 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Rowey wrote:
I think you have it the wrong way round.



I think you've got it : We have a fear of rats as their tails resemble snakes.

Same difference Very Happy I knew it was something like that.

BTW; My Old Dear was the only person I've ever known to be bit by a wild snake in the UK.
Anyone else been bit?

And another Rat Tale - a few years back we moved Dave Greenfield out of The Stranglers into his new home - very nice bloke as it happens but he and his wife keep the ashes of old pet rats. they appeared to be better cared for than all the gold discs knocking about everywhere.


I was bitten by my pet African Rock Python when I was pished and trying to feed it a lil' ole chook one evening. I think auld Sydney got more of a fright than I did.
Like other snakes, they have pits in their jaw that sense 'IR heat'. (So they can pin point and strike on prey in a darkened place/burrow.) Well the heat signature of my drunken hand and the scent from the chicken I was holding must have seemed fair game to the starving Python. I never seen it move, I just noticed something pulling/sticking to my hand. Then when I looked with a more sober eye, the pain kicked in. Not the pain a man would feel mind you, but it did chaffe a little. (No venom but anti-bac cover was required.)

Snakes are the coolest of pets after Bengal Tigers and those Black Leopards. Cool
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
From what my Mum told me, she was bitten by an Adder while putting some rubbish in a litter bin at a campsite. She just thought that she'd caught her foot on some barbed wire or sommat. It was serious shit at the time as she was quite old and just collapsed within minutes.
I love some of the smaller snakes but if I was to set up a vivarium(?), I'd like to keep exotic frogs Cool I used to have aquatic frogs in my last tropical fish tank and could watch them for ages.


The bears found a Horned Viper around the camp on the rig last week. Some cnut had already banjoed the poor fcuker with a bin lid before I saw it. It was about 2' long and about 1-1/2" at the thckest part of it's body. Even though it had been un-mercifully mashed it was still putting up a bit of a show when I lifted the bin lid.
Anyhow the gyst of the story is... Someone was putting something in the bin on the rig floor later that night and noticed a stink of rotten meat. When they looked into the bin they saw the dead snake. I don't know how it managed to crawl/slither 200yds and 80' up a stair to get into the bin but that's where it was found. Smile

Some of these folks around here are propah cock-endz. Even the venom from a dead snake is dangerous. Though the Horned Viper more of a mofo bee sting. They are not bad tempered and don't readily bite.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 05 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

got bitten by a grass snake one evening on the way home pissed up and walking through some long grass

trod on it and it turned and bit me


Embarassed Embarassed i was wearing sandels at the time so it caught my ankle
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PostPosted: 03:28 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
got bitten by a grass snake one evening on the way home pissed up and walking through some long grass

trod on it and it turned and bit me


Embarassed Embarassed i was wearing sandels at the time so it caught my ankle


That serves you right.

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