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BillyJ
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: HELP! Sorn and tax Reply with quote

My CBR 125R is on sale now and the tax runs out on June 30th.
As I'm no longer insured on it, I can't get it taxed. As it's a 125, having it up as SORN will put of a lot of potential chavs!

I just called up Carole Nash and they have a 14 day money back thing (minus £25 admin charges). I was talking to a fellow named Wayne from Carole Nash who advised me that it highly frowned upon to insure a bike to get tax on it, and then cancel a policy. But he "couldn't" tell me if he would recommend it.

E bike will insure me on it for 1 month for £500... umm no.

I was wondering how to get around this and get my bike taxed. The way I see it is:

Get it insured in my dads name for one month, get tax. (Can i do this as the letter has my name on it?)
Get it insured in my name, get tax, cancel policy.
SORN it and suffer the lowered value of my bike.
Sell it ASAP like in the next 3 weeks.

Help!?

Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sorn it, it's not worth the hassle.

Cheaper to knock the price of the tax off the asking price.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recent SORNing will do little damage to the value of your bike.

A new MOT will more than compensate.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I though so, but keep in mind my main target audience are 17 years old and probably don't know what SORN is...
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

but their parents who will be paying for it should do...

£16-£17 quid in tax isnt going to put anyone off.

condition,service history.mot are far more relevant

if anything just put "sorn'd,so you wont get any nasty letters from the dvla later"


plus on a side note, isnt it now illegal NOT to declare sorn on an uninsured vehicle?
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlie74 wrote:
isnt it now illegal NOT to declare sorn on an uninsured vehicle?


Yes...

And I'll SORN it in 2 weeks if i don't sell it by then, also to un-SORN it, is it just a case of paying the £17 tax?
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
Recent SORNing will do little damage to the value of your bike.

A new MOT will more than compensate.


This ^^^^ Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

to unsorn, it must have all its legally required to be on the road, insurance, mot and tax, thats it
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should technically be SORNed now seeing as it isn't insured. You may be getting a request for an £80 bribe in the post.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
It should technically be SORNed now seeing as it isn't insured. You may be getting a request for an £80 bribe in the post.


Can a bike not be off the road without insurance? it's in my back garden.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:

Can a bike not be off the road without insurance? it's in my back garden.


Nope, if it's not insured it must be SORNed.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-insurance/uninsured-vehicles

https://www.gov.uk/register-sorn-statutory-off-road-notification
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

" they " dont care where it is Sad

as long as the system says the bike is uninsured.. it spews out the letter

i have an old escort cab in storage, and i still have to declare it sorn, and that hasnt been on the road for 5yrs
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:

Nope, if it's not insured it must be SORNed.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-insurance/uninsured-vehicles


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PostPosted: 20:07 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should i just SORN it asap then??
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you think? Wink
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorn dat bitch.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlie74 wrote:
what do you think? Wink

hmm yes??!!!

Haha, how long till i expect a letter then? Not to incriminate myself but, there is a potential that its been uninsured for a month just as there is potential that its still insured Wink
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hows longs a piece of string,, the whole system seems very random,
not everyone gets caught straight away, and they can be very anal about it

back to cars, i got a letter for a car that thankfully i was able to prove was crushed 2yrs later....
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...
Does the letter say:
"Money.. NOW!"

or is it more of a:
"You have 28 days to SORN or we will fine you."
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
Wow...
Does the letter say:
"Money.. NOW!"

or is it more of a:
"You have 28 days to SORN or we will fine you."


It comes from a debt collection agency that work for the DVLA, basically says pay us £80 and we wont take you to court.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 06 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:


It comes from a debt collection agency that work for the DVLA, basically says pay us £80 and we wont take you to court.


No one told me this!!
I'm SORNing it as we speak!
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 07 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillyJ wrote:
No one told me this!!

They were putting notes in with the VED reminders for a while, but have stopped now, presumably because Capita Group Plc (trading as DVLA Collections) can rake in more bribes that way.


BillyJ wrote:
I'm SORNing it as we speak!

Online? If you do it by post, be sure to get a certificate of posting. You do need evidence for the specific offence of keeping an uninsured vehicle.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 07 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Online? If you do it by post, be sure to get a certificate of posting. You do need evidence for the specific offence of keeping an uninsured vehicle.


Yep, did it online a couple of hours ago. Hopefully that means im not a criminal.
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