What are the cons of restricting?

[Adam.I]

Like the title suggest, this is pretty self explanatory, What are the cons of restricting a bike that's 600cc? I was going to buy a 125, but I'm kind of going of that idea, then I though 250, 400 and 500 but I can't find nothing decent. I know anything above 600 would be insania, and 600 may be too much. Just like to know what the bad stuff is.
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[jay12329]

Its slower, thats the only problem i have with my 33brake 600.
J

[dainesefreak]

Cutting it's balls off.

[jay12329]

Well one of its balls. It still functions but not as afectively as before.
J

[Adam.I]

Well yeah, I knew it made it slower, hence why it's called a restricter, but does it do anything bad to the engine or anything else? It would have to be on for two years, but if it was to 'fall off' after a year or so, this wouldn't be as bad right?
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[jay12329]

It limits the amount of fuel that goes in to the cylinder, just like rideing with a lower throttle, no dammage.
J

[Adam.I]

So there is absolutely no damage to the bike at all? Would you recommend getting 600 and restricting it jay?
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[byke95]

[jay12329]

I dont have a problem with it on the roads. i've done a few track days on it and i'm finding its limits on the faster parts of cadwell park.
The bike runns fine and does its job. I dont have a problem with it. Some people dont like it, but it doesnt realy bother me.
J

[Adam.I]

Yeah, good point byke95, but life is about risks and I may be willing to take this one. What would be the top speed for a GSXR and Honda CBR restricted and normal?
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[hellkat]

Its just your bike goes VROOM instead of VROOM!!!!!!!!!!

I had a restricted 600 Yam XT for a little while. Had enough grunt for me, coming directly off a 125

Till it got nicked, bastids.

It's okay to get a 125 and then go up to restricted from there, makes you appreciate the extra power even at 33bhp. Then when you get onto the Real Thing ... woo!
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[Ste]

Doesn't cause any problems. Yes the bike will be slower but that is the whole point of them! Bikes which will be best restricted to 33bhp are those which are closest to 33bhp. Whats the point of getting a sport 600 which is about 100bhp and then cutting it down to 33bhp? You still get charged for insurance the same as if the bike was full power, so why waste that money? Get something which is close to being 33bhp as it will be a better bike and the insurance will be less.

"But if it was to 'fall off' after a year or so, this wouldn't be as bad right?" As bad as what? In the eyes of the law if you don't have the bike restricted, it's not restricted. They won't be nicer to you as you kept it restricted for 12 months and only just removed it. Either it is restricted or it's not. Never had any problems with police myself and never heard of anyone having problems, but there is still the possibility as it is illegal. What are you comparing the restrictor falling out to being as bad as?

[jay12329]

My Hornet managed 100mph on the speedo at cadwell, then i had to sit up and turn in to the next courner. So they will do more than you need on the road.
J

[Adam.I]

The reason I want it Ste, is because I'm not made of money, so I don't have the cash to get something close to a 33BHP (£1,700ish), then pay the insurance for it (£1,000), one or two years later, fork out another few grand for the CBR R6 etc, and then another grand ish for insurance. So I could save £2,700 and just get the 600cc, restrict it, be a good boy and keep it on for two years, and after that take it off and be:

[Bendy]

That's not entirely logical.

Restriction kit - £150 - £200

Insurance on a 33bhp bike will be lower than insurance on a 100bhp bike - the insurers don't care that it's restricted, you pay full price.

You'll pay more doing it the way you're saying.

[Ste]

Your numbers don't exactly add up. £1,700 for something close to 33bhp? You can pick up a Honda Bros 400 for a few hundred, and insurance will not cost £1,000 or anywhere near that! You can pick a good condition CBR600 up for about £1,000 and the insurance will be cheaper as you have more no claims.

Where does the number of £2,700 come from? Seems to me that its come from the cost of the 33bhp bikes and a years insurance for it. Whatever bike you get you'll have to pay to insure it, and a bike which is close to 33bhp will cost a lot less than a 600cc bike to insure! And you will still be able to sell the bike once you've finished with it so you get a good amount of the money back.

[Adam.I]

I got Danny to get my quotes, and the insurance for the 33BHP bike would be £925 ish. And, I figured by the time I got the bigger bike, I would have at least one year no claims bonus, experience riding for a year, so it would go down from what it original would be.
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[Adam.I]

£1,700 for a decent Honda NSR, I don't want an old one, 2000+, I don't want to be having to repair it every few miles. And, my insuranace is £1,000, I asked Danny to do me a quote.
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[Bendy]

Which 33bhp bike are we talking about?

[dainesefreak]

A 600 like a GSXR or CBR with one years NCB is still going to put the wringer on you for insurance.

[Adam.I]

The bike is £1,700, I want a Honda NSR. I don't want an old ne that is going to be falling to pieces every few miles. So something that's around the year 2000+. Then, the insurance is £925 ish, I got Danny to get me a quote.
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[Ste]

An NSR is not a 33bhp.

Any bike you have to have servicing done every so often it's part of owning something with a mechanical engine.

[Adam.I]

Yes, I know. Now wires have got crossed. OK, Ok, start from beginning. And sorry for posting other message twice.
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[Bendy]

Okay.

1) Have you actually sat your test yet?

2) A naturally 33bhp bike will be much cheaper to insure than a sports 600. It will also hold it's value quite well as there's always a demand for them.

3) A sports 600 will be EXPENSIVE to insure. Especially if you are young and have little experience & no no claims.

[Adam.I]

The reason why I don't want to get something like a NSR, or Aprilia 250, or what ever is because:

A) I've read on here that they need very careful maintainance, and need rebuilding every so often

B) If I did get the 250cc, and it was over 33BHP, I'd have to get a restricter kit, which like Bendy said up to £200

C) When I do come to sell the bike after the two years, it won't be worth as much as I paid for it.

Where as, if I was to just get something that's 600, buy a restricter kit, keep it on for two years, I'm not going to be losing out on having to sell the first bike, the restricter kit, and the insurance money that I wasted which could have gone to the 600 bike as well as money on the maintainance side of things. And after the first year, the insurance will have gone down on the 600 so it will be cheaper and then again after second.

Please tell me you understand what I'm saying?
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