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PostPosted: 09:50 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Bad Vibe From a Guy at Work Reply with quote

Just curious as how to approach this little conundrum.

I work in a large team, and every so often have to meet up with everyone from the team and also ususally have to phone and email people during the working week.

Now everything is pretty good, and on the whole, everyone is brilliant. However there's this one guy, who I'm pretty sure doesn't like me. He seems to get on with everyone, but when it comes to me he turns into a nob. This usually isn't too much of a problem, and I try to be courteous and nice but I'm getting to the end of my patience.

The guy is about 5 years my junior, and he talks to me as if he's my boss (same pay grade). Prime example, I phoned him up to share some info that he requested, and I got a "I'm too busy, phone me later" and hung up. Starting to turn from a slight dislike to I'm going to have a word with him soon... I'm not good at having words with people because I struggle to keep my temper in check and be "professional", I just know I'm going to end up saying somthing I regret.

I think it's just the basic rudeness of the guy which is pissing me off. I've already decided to stop trying to be the nice guy and just get on with things. If I need to talk to him then I'll say what I need to say then leave. Just don't like having bad air when there's no need for it.

Sooooo.... Any advice?

I'm tempted to just say "You don't like me much do you?".. just to see what he says.

I don't know BCF.. Just want to get on with people.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it came to it could you whup his ass? Your options depend on the answer to that in the real world.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it came to it could you whup his ass? Your options depend on the answer to that in the real world.


Pretty sure I could. I consider myself quite strong (rugby background) and he's a scrawny indie looking dude.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put your nob in his girlfriend.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
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If it came to it could you whup his ass? Your options depend on the answer to that in the real world.


Pretty sure I could. I consider myself quite strong (rugby background) and he's a scrawny indie looking dude.


Then have a word with him in private (no witnesses, no CCTV etc) and inform him that if he continues to fail to show due respect you'll arrange a suitable moment during which you'll smack him in the mouth.

His word against yours if he's dumb enough to whine. And you have the moral right as his is the first and ongoing unwarranted offence.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Bad Vibe From a Guy at Work Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
I'm tempted to just say "You don't like me much do you?".. just to see what he says.


Definitely don't do that. If he does have an issue with you, he will know that he is getting to you.

NEVER let your adversary (even if they are perceived adversaries) know that they are getting to you.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, after you've put your nob in his girlfriend, just be really nice to him.

Buy him chocolates, bubble baths, a spa day for the two of you - that kind of stuff. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Then have a word with him in private (no witnesses, no CCTV etc) and inform him that if he continues to fail to show due respect you'll arrange a suitable moment during which you'll smack him in the mouth.

His word against yours if he's dumb enough to whine. And you have the moral right as his is the first and ongoing unwarranted offence.


Not sure if this's what I would do.

To be honest, I would simply ignore him. You can't exactly force people to like you and until they do something that prevents you from doing your work, it's not really an issue. Sure it would be much easier if everyone would be great friends with everyone, but that's just not possible. (not to mention how many of the people who appear to be liking you might say something different when you are not around..)

The guy might be irritating, but you shouldn't really be pissed off unless He comes to annoy you on purpose. But at that point it's a whole different story.

Just accept the fact that you can't get on well with everyone and that's normal. Much more normal in my opinion than seemingly liking everyone.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Bad Vibe From a Guy at Work Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Bubbs wrote:
I'm tempted to just say "You don't like me much do you?".. just to see what he says.


Definitely don't do that. If he does have an issue with you, he will know that he is getting to you.

NEVER let your adversary (even if they are perceived adversaries) know that they are getting to you.


I don't consider him an adversary, just an annoyance. I know if he takes it too far Id happily warn him but I just don't see why he's being a nob.

I guess sometimes people just don't like you. I'm fine with that... Just think I'm going to stop trying to be nice and ignore the fucker.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then have a word with him in private (no witnesses, no CCTV etc) and inform him that if he continues to fail to show due respect you'll arrange a suitable moment during which you'll smack him in the mouth.

His word against yours if he's dumb enough to whine. And you have the moral right as his is the first and ongoing unwarranted offence.


Not sure if this's what I would do.

To be honest, I would simply ignore him. You can't exactly force people to like you and until they do something that prevents you from doing your work, it's not really an issue. Sure it would be much easier if everyone would be great friends with everyone, but that's just not possible. (not to mention how many of the people who appear to be liking you might say something different when you are not around..)

The guy might be irritating, but you shouldn't really be pissed off unless He comes to annoy you on purpose. But at that point it's a whole different story.

Just accept the fact that you can't get on well with everyone and that's normal. Much more normal in my opinion than seemingly liking everyone.


The problem with that kind of thinking is it ends up with others seeing the disrespect given and the lack of a response indicating weakness. Before long everyone is treating you like a tool, to some greater or lesser degree. And the bigger you are the worse it is. I've seen it happen, more than once.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck him. Ignore him, and don't help him. Wait 'till he comes to you for help, then tell him to fuck off. Awkward little shit. Haha.

I'm not very sociable...
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just curious as how to approach this little problem.

I work in a large team, and every so often have to meet up with everyone from the team and also usually have to phone and email people during the working week.

Now everything is pretty good, and on the whole, everyone is brilliant. However there's this one guy, who I'm pretty sure doesn't like me. He seems to get on with everyone, but when it comes to me he turns into a nob. This usually isn't too much of a problem, and I try to be courteous and nice but I'm getting to the end of my patience.

The guy is about 5 years my senior and he talks to me as if he's my boss (identical pay grade). Prime example, I phoned him up to share some info that he requested, and I got a "I'm too busy, phone me later" and hung up. Starting to turn from a slight dislike to I'm going to have a word with him soon... I'm not good at having words with people because I struggle to keep my temper in check and be "professional", I just know I'm going to end up saying something I regret.

I think it's just the basic rudeness of the guy which is pissing me off. I've already decided to stop trying to be the nice guy and just get on with things. If I need to talk to him then I'll say what I need to say then leave. Just don't like having bad air when there's no need for it.

Sooooo.... Any advice?

I'm tempted to just say "You don't like me much do you?".. But he's a big biker dude and might punch me in the mouth.


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PostPosted: 10:28 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
The problem with that kind of thinking is it ends up with others seeing the disrespect given and the lack of a response indicating weakness. Before long everyone is treating you like a tool, to some greater or lesser degree. And the bigger you are the worse it is. I've seen it happen, more than once.


He hasn't done it in front of anyone else yet.. just quietly. If he starts to be a prick in front of people then I will be having a word. It almost feels like he is chancing it everytime he decides to be a prick and waiting for me to be nasty back to him. I will only take so much and then I'll be having a word.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

back hand is the only logical direction you can go to from here,
deal one out,
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:

The problem with that kind of thinking is it ends up with others seeing the disrespect given and the lack of a response indicating weakness. Before long everyone is treating you like a tool, to some greater or lesser degree. And the bigger you are the worse it is. I've seen it happen, more than once.


Yeah, you have to find the balance between not being a tool and not getting upset over someone doesn't liking you :p
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
If it came to it could you whup his ass? Your options depend on the answer to that in the real world.


^^This.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
If it came to it could you whup his ass? Your options depend on the answer to that in the real world.


Then have a word with him in private (no witnesses, no CCTV etc) and inform him that if he continues to fail to show due respect you'll arrange a suitable moment during which you'll smack him in the mouth.

His word against yours if he's dumb enough to whine. And you have the moral right as his is the first and ongoing unwarranted offence.


Out of interest, what's the option if the answer is "No, he could kill me in a heartbeat"?
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, you failed it by not going round and Saatchi'ing him when he hung up on you.

Well, if you're going the sniffy route, then *PLONK* his email and block or ignore any calls. I've got half my company killfiled, no second chances. If you're ever too busy to help me, then I'm always too busy to help you.

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PostPosted: 12:47 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good if varied advice.

Totally agree, do NOT say, 'you don't like me do you', because that sounds like you care and its bothered you.

Id ignore him. I think the power of silence s one of the most disarming out there.

Don't give two hoots.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Bad Vibe From a Guy at Work Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:


The guy is about 5 years my junior, and he talks to me as if he's my boss (same pay grade). Prime example, I phoned him up to share some info that he requested, and I got a "I'm too busy, phone me later" and hung up.


hes younger, on the same paygrade, so thinks hes superior to you,

thing is.. if he needs info from you to do his job, then he is beholding to you, next time, have the infomation ready, but NEVER offer it to him, make him come to you for it, that will establish that your the alpha dog, like wise if you need info, go and get it from him and make him work to supply it
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Bad Vibe From a Guy at Work Reply with quote

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The guy is about 5 years my junior, and he talks to me as if he's my boss (same pay grade). Prime example, I phoned him up to share some info that he requested, and I got a "I'm too busy, phone me later" and hung up.


hes younger, on the same paygrade, so thinks hes superior to you,

thing is.. if he needs info from you to do his job, then he is beholding to you, next time, have the infomation ready, but NEVER offer it to him, make him come to you for it, that will establish that your the alpha dog, like wise if you need info, go and get it from him and make him work to supply it


^^this

despite the amazing quality of people working in my office, there is always one who sees it as their prerogative to make your life difficult.
its just a job, its just an office. interact with him only when necesary and only when you need something. keep that in mind and forget about the politics of being liked, to someone like him, it really doesnt matter about working relationships, so fuck him and just use him for what he's there for. and if you can dish out some shitty tasks in the meantime to teach the little piss-ant a lesson, then do so - with descretion so as to not fall foul of any workplace laws etc....

he sounds like a right peenars, so why bother trying to fix the situation.

in the good old days of the sweeney like, a good man slap would suffice, but our society has managed to place each individual in a cotton wool cloud of safety bollocks, so this kind of sh*t just cant happen. YAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWNNN
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Out of interest, what's the option if the answer is "No, he could kill me in a heartbeat"?


Suck it up or use a bat. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep trying to work with him, keep it civil, but log it in a text file or something every time something happens. Doesn't need to be a mass of text, just time, date, what you said and what he said.

When you finally have really had enough of it or if his actions look like making you look bad to others, you can refer to the text file in response and put the onus on him. Essentially, cover your arse against his manipulations, do your job and ignore everything he does, after you make a note of it.

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PostPosted: 13:37 - 20 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, lots of good advice.. I was just trying to build a working relationship that would make my life easier... It's always those that consider themselves to have a more important job, or think themselves high up the pecking order that get my goat. The air of entitlement and superiority... It just makes me want to vom.

I've met a lot of people in my time, and those that I respected most have been the ones that don't give a flying fuck about position. Whether your earning 30k or 300k, there's no need to be a dick head because you have more responsibility/money etc.

Anyhow, I will discontinue my attempts to build a relationship and he can now come and find me if he needs anything. I'm not going to be a prick but he will just be low in my list of important people that will get my help.
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