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 Posted: 23:06 - 22 Jun 2013 Post subject: How to get "braver"? |
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This may sound like a really silly question, but how does one grow more balls to become a better biker? Some riders just blast past me and can do corners like a GP rider, yet no matter how hard I try I just can't seem to get the confidence to match them.
I've had a few drivers pull out on me too, so now I'm really cautious at junctions and find my self slowing down when approaching them. It's staring to take the piss a bit now. Only had a bike 3 weeks, but I need to find the courage to start pushing myself more. I did find I was alright when I first started biking, but ever since I crashed on the swerve test I seem to have lost my nerve a little and it wont come back  |
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| The Disapproving Brit |
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 The Disapproving Brit World Chat Champion

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Exactly what every one else is saying. Look at it this way: you've been riding a big bike for 3 weeks, and we've had nice weekends, so I'm going to guess you've been on a few unfamiliar roads in that time. Approaching those new corners, I'm guessing you've been slowing it down, keeping your speed appropriate to the vanishing point because that's all the information you have.
Ride those same roads again and you'll take one or two of those corners a little quicker, because you'll remember you were a touch overcautious last time, and now you know there's nothing to surprise you half way round.
Same thing. In time, you'll get to know the bike, through a combination of simple accumulation of riding hours and occasional "oh shit" moments where you're forced to put faith in the bike and it doesn't let you down.
Don't rush it. Ride for you and your own comfort level, and it'll come naturally. ____________________ Current Bikes: 1983 Honda VF400FD / 2003 Honda VT750 Shadow
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You're going exactly as fast as you need and want to.
If you're grinning, you're winning. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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an wheelies if you can't wheelie within 5 mins on a bike -1000 man points. |
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 freeslotsking Derestricted Danger
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I had a 125 for about a week and went str8 to a Daytona 955i SS.. But dude I still ponced about round the corners.. (and roundabouts) You don't have to be Barry sheen !
Try following some bikers, as it's easier to follow the lines.. I followed 2 guys on R6's for a few miles once. It was the fastest id ever rode around places I didn't know.. But once it got a bit much I let them go.
I've had many a biker blast past me on lower powered bikes.. but fook it man.. Just enjoy riding, don't feel like less of a biker just because you aint got your knee down or cant do 95mph round the local one way system.
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Faster doesn't always mean better, despite what some people might have you believe, there's more to riding a bike than tearing around like Valentino Rossi.
I've never been all that good at corners and in a group of riders on similar bikes, I'll most likely be the slowest, but I don't feel I'm missing out and (touch wood) I haven't come off since 1983.
Oh, and I still give cars approaching side turnings a wide berth, which dates back to a crash I had in 1981, so don't sweat it, caution keeps you upright and alive. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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i'm in the same boat, i've called myself a dick a few times lately for thinking about braking as i lean in for a bend i feel like i've overcooked.
was starting to wonder what was going on. but in fairness after putting a few thousand on my 100cc in winter, i hadn't ridden this year aside a half day lesson, my mod 1 and my mod 2.
so my momentum/progress has gone backwards a bit and i've had a new bike for a couple of weeks... and not ridden as much as i'd have liked.
plan? take it easy, gain experience, stay smiling, get home safe.
found it helpful to follow a mate who is quite a relaxed rider, to see when he braked, what line he took, that sort of thing.
i'm definitely faster in my van at the moment ____________________ CBT - 17/09/12 * Theory - 23/10/12 * Mod1 - 05/03/13 * Mod2 - 25/03/13 * BOSH!
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Advice: Look where you want to go.
I've been riding motorcycles for decades but someone still winds off the throttle when I take one particular corner near my house. I know for a fact it can be taken with the throttle wide-open in third on my bike but for some reason, when I hit the apex, it's always half closed. When I find who is responsable for shutting it, it will go harshly with them. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| highwayrider wrote: | This may sound like a really silly question, but how does one grow more balls to become a better biker? Some riders just blast past me and can do corners like a GP rider, yet no matter how hard I try I just can't seem to get the confidence to match them.
I've had a few drivers pull out on me too, so now I'm really cautious at junctions and find my self slowing down when approaching them. It's staring to take the piss a bit now. Only had a bike 3 weeks, but I need to find the courage to start pushing myself more. I did find I was alright when I first started biking, but ever since I crashed on the swerve test I seem to have lost my nerve a little and it wont come back  |
Dude.. you sound like a true idiot. You've had your bike for only 3 weeks and you want to keep up with riders with years of experience?
Taking corners fast has nothing to do with bravery. With experience you will learn how to trust your bike, how to approach and exit corners, how to be smooth, how to position your body. You will know how to take corners at speed safely.. no bravery needed, no adrenaline rush.. nothing, just a grin on your face from a vibration on your knee slider
You don't know any of that so don't even try. Learn to walk before you start running or you will hurt somebody or yourself. ____________________ Current Bike: Yamaha XSR900 Previous bikes: Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade, Kawasaki ZX-6R Ninja, Aprilia RS125 2-stroke |
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