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PostPosted: 08:37 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Those shitty gravel roads? Reply with quote

So that fucked up cheapo re-surfacing they do with the gravel plastered all over the road and 20mph limits put up.
All the roads up by squires have been re-surfaced in this shit Sad

Whats it like to ride on after its been down quite a while? i still ride on like a granny just wondering if there is any form of grip at all?
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not too bad once the gravel fucks off, time-scale depends on how much traffic uses the road, even a very quiet residential road will be un-gravel-y in a year at most.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Those shitty gravel roads? Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
So that fucked up cheapo re-surfacing they do with the gravel plastered all over the road and 20mph limits put up.
All the roads up by squires have been re-surfaced in this shit Sad

Whats it like to ride on after its been down quite a while? i still ride on like a granny just wondering if there is any form of grip at all?


Once they've hoovered up most of the loose chippings and most of the rest of it has been brushed aside by traffic it's fine and quite grippy.

Just be a bit sensible in the corners to check it out to start with!
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem grippy after a while. But run your foot along it and shudder at the thought of coming off and sliding on it, it's like sandpaper.
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate that stuff. Brilliant shiny fairing scratcher Hurt
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've put a load of it near The Sun Inn too. Seems like they have put it on roads bikers like to use. The thing is, there are far worse roads I can think of, it wasn't even in a bad state, couldn't have been the speeds we've done.

Probably a nice side-effect that we go slow when we see it. Fucks me off though.

I discovered a really nice road a few weeks back, it was absolutely awesome, probably averaging about 100mph on it, tight bends, long radius bends, everything, went on for ages. I went back to do it again... fresh layer of gravel SHITE. Evil or Very Mad

Good if you've got some c**t behind you though, drop a gear and twist the throttle to spray their cockmobile in stones.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not like it's something they just started doing - most roads have this surface treatment every few years and the loose stuff mostly beds in when the tar is warm.

A layer of proper tarmac is good for smoothing undulations and potholes but not so good as wearing surface, it does not have enough grip especially when wet, so they apply this surface tar and chips layer.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not like it's something they just started doing - most roads have this surface treatment every few years and the loose stuff mostly beds in when the tar is warm.

A layer of proper tarmac is good for smoothing undulations and potholes but not so good as wearing surface, it does not have enough grip especially when wet, so they apply this surface tar and chips layer.


As the Dog said. Its more of a money saving idea from the councils these days. Way back in the day when the councils had money they used to come out, put the tar down, then chips and then steam roller it into place. Now they cut out the last step and rely on the good ole public to do the steam rollering for them. After a few weeks in the summer its bedded in nicely and you get a pretty decent amount of grip from it.

Bad news is that until its bedded in you have flying stones everywhere and on a hot day with good hot tyres I have had stones flying up between the fairing and one just missed my open visor. Needless to say it was closed seconds later.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did that last year at the lake district, if I accelerated even slightly on my old 690 the back end would kick out Confused and forget about brakes, better off putting your feet down Razz

I would probably leave it a week of cars driving on it before its grippy again, but even then there might be loads of crap in the centre of the lanes.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mentioned in another thread that they'd done my road. Bear in mind that my road is marked with green dots on an OS map and you get some idea of the traffic flow - negligible. However, I took the bike out yesterday, after only 6 days of the surface being down, and it was actually alright.

I was careful, of course, but I didn't have any moments at 20 mph.

I did hear a few stones score the inside of the mudguard though. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surface dressing is not new - they have been doing it for decades. The main driver is to seal the road surface to stop water getting in to cracks and causing potholes in the winter. The gravel improves the friction that would be non existent if it were left with a spray applied sealant.

Once the road has settled, be aware that any loose chips settle in between the tracks of cars, which requires care on bends - my brother had an off back in the late 80, when our bikes were our sole mode of transport, and we lived in the sticks where they treated the road past our house every few years. Now, I avoid them if I can.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go crash up their and sue the council. Say you were doing 15mph but it was still too dangerous.

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PostPosted: 11:32 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cunnington wrote:
Surface dressing is not new - they have been doing it for decades. The main driver is to seal the road surface to stop water getting in to cracks and causing potholes in the winter. The gravel improves the friction that would be non existent if it were left with a spray applied sealant.

Once the road has settled, be aware that any loose chips settle in between the tracks of cars, which requires care on bends - my brother had an off back in the late 80, when our bikes were our sole mode of transport, and we lived in the sticks where they treated the road past our house every few years. Now, I avoid them if I can.


This is spot on. It's nothing new and is a measure employed to lengthen the life of road surfaces at a minimal cost. Planing the wear layer off and applying new tarmac is horribly expensive. Sections of our roads get treated annually and it has to be done in the summer which unfortunately coincides with the appearance of loads of bikes on the road. Our council send a road sweeper in to remove the loose stuff after a few days and it's perfectly fine after that. If your council doesn't remove the loose stuff, then stay in the wheel tracks, keep it smooth and you'll be fine. It's a pain in the arse but it's better than potholed roads.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 out of my favourite 5 roads have recently been done, as the council don't sweep away excess, nor does the road get heavy traffic use it takes a while to get properly reusable again. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate this stuff. Although luckily I care not of stone chippings and such on my paintwork.

I was on one a few days ago. Another decentish road ruined. Was stuck behind a bike and a car doing 10mph. Seriously, 10mph on a straight in a NSL area? After a minute or two I got annoyed and overtook, buggering off at NSL. It's not that slippy.

I got off the road as soon as possible though and found a brilliant country lane as a result. Booyah! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride the road like a boss!

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PostPosted: 13:04 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazz wrote:


Maybe this is where we're going wrong. We should all be buying those bikes rather than sports bikes for the summer! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just take it easy, try to avoid places where the chippings would collect. It's preferable to when they do the road 'properly' by tearing it up, as the layer underneath is incredibly uneven. I tried to ride on that once before turning around and finding another route.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I turned off the sun in road a few weeks back and came into otley on the other road instead. Riding today from aysgarth to kettle well and this stuff was all over.
My mother in law lives in Sherburn so I go for my Sunday lunch after a cheeky ride. I think I'll leave hat a few weeks.

I used to think the councils were been lazy till I read this thread but no more. I shall stop moaning about it!
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've just started to do the annual "let's screw the roads up" thing over here, on large sections of the TT course too. Sad

Came off on this stuff last year, when the lights changed to red. I knew I wouldn't make it through before they canged, so was forced to reluctantly use the brakes. Used them extremely gently with buttocks tightly clenched and thought I'd made ut without coming off, until the very last second before coming to a full stop, when I heard the sound I didn't want to hear, the noise of grinding gravel. Front wheel went and down came. Smashed front indicator, brake lever bent, bar end and panels scratced on the right Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

Supposed to be going on the Joey Dunlop memorial ride out on Tuesday, around the course. I'm having second thoughts due to them covering the roads in tar and chip now. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've been busy around our way doing it too, mostly on roads that were perfectly good beforehand. I wish they'd spend their... sorry.. OUR money on sorting out the roads that desperately need it first.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've just tarred and chipped the street between mine and the main road. There was nothing wrong with it before.

Yet come January and it'll be under a foot of snow, and see neither hide-nor-hair of a gritter. When the main road is clear my street is still under two inches of compacted ice.

Derbyshire council: fucking the roads up winter AND summer.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Hammers wrote:
They've been busy around our way doing it too, mostly on roads that were perfectly good beforehand. I wish they'd spend their... sorry.. OUR money on sorting out the roads that desperately need it first.


The surface dressing is intended to prevent good roads from becoming bad roads in the first place though. Surface dressing is relatively cheap, resurfacing is expensive. Cuts mean that councils have to prioritise services and that unfortunately means that roads come a long way down the list - unless they're actually dangerous, so preventative measures make sense.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The A169 from pickering to whitby was getting done with chippings today at the whitby end .Who ever gave the go ahead for it done today wants shooting cars must have been stuck in the ques for hours
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 30 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were heading south towards Yalding along the southern section of Seven Mile Lane this morning,when we exited the roundabout.No signs anywhere saying 'Skid risk 20 mph max' so all we could do was to guess where the shallowest of the piled up gravel was and to ride along that.

A few years ago we were on our way home form the coast and one of our group hit a pile of gravel that had collected in one particular place by the side of the road between Sissinghurst and Goudhurst.And down he went.About 5 minutes later two council road sweepers arrived to clear the road of all of the loose gravel.
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