Motorcycle ABS

[fox]

I was browsing through YouTube last night and came across this very interesting video.
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=dJ_UkAFW6cA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdJ_UkAFW6cA

If ABS can really save lives, do you think it should be a mandatory requirement?
Obviously there is no substitute for good road craft/ obs, but I'm interested to hear people's take on ABS here.

/discuss
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[Scootaloo]

CBF500 ABS

Did save my front wheel from locking once thus saving me lifespan/money.

Recommended yes.

Reason: It's good for idiots like me that ride too fast for the conditions.
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[RhynoCZ]

I think it should stay where it is, I mean optional. The only benefit I can see is when it's raining and the rider has no idea of how slippery the road can be when it gets wet and lots of riders have 10+yrs old bikes so I do not see mandatory ABS as a solution.

If there is a thing that should be mandatory, then I'd say mandatory motorcycle gear, at least some mandatory pads or spine protector. Helmet is not enough.
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[Islander]

A good idea? Yes.

Mandatory? No.

[MarkJ]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[fatpies]

Is it that video where the rider exaggerates it by throwing his weight to one side? While not doing the same with the ABS bike?
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[TheSmiler]

My overall opinion on it is leave it alone as an added extra, you shouldn't have to be forced to have it even if it could potentially save your life. People have been riding for so many years and not had a problem (not on about Sunday riders here who have had 50 days in the saddle in 20 years).

[Zombeh]

[fox]

[barrkel]

Yes, on the basis of two things: that ABS is hugely helpful in all-weather road riding, and it stops ABS from being a luxury extra and forces it to have more competitive pricing.

I don't know of any motorcycle ABS that can't be disabled, even if it has to be done by removing the ABS fuse. I don't think we should have mandatory ABS in the sense that a motorcycle is considered not roadworthy without ABS, or fail MOT without ABS. But new motorcycles should come with ABS as standard.

I have ABS on both my bikes, and the VFR was specifically chosen because it had ABS. I've never had it kick in on the VFR because I don't ride as often in the rain on it, nor in the kinds of conditions where frequent near-emergency braking is required. But in the winter, I might have the SH's ABS kick in once or twice a week.

If you're silly enough, ABS encourages you to ride faster in the wet because you know you can stop - and I've done some crazy drifting-sideway stops with it - but the overall safety advantage outweighs the increased risks.
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[Rogerborg]

Answer #3: Question is moot because ABS will be mandatory on all 126cc+ motorcycles sold in the EU from January 1st 2016.

I've never needed it, I'm happy that my latest bike has it, I wouldn't force it on anyone else though.
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[Old Git Racing]

No, can't do stoppies.

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[bikertomm]

What I'd like to know is why he is locking up the wheels like a ham fisted spacktard consistently without the ABS.. could he not progressively brake to the conditions so we see a real comparison and not how far his stabilisers carry him?


I seem to remember a ride magazine video and they compared ABS properly and the expert rider could brake roughly the same as the bike with ABS, thus allowing all us noobs to brake to the equivalent of a half decent rider.. so I think in some scenarios it's good to have.


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[Walloper]

I think it could be mandatory with the option of temporary off switch.

It does nothing until needed (unless you are hooning) and if looking for high jinks most 'proper' systems can be disabled.

I fell off a few years ago due to 'loss of control' on one of them big fecking white arrows painted on the road. I was braking, admittedly a bit too enthusiastically, but ABS would more than probably have saved my bacon as it was due to front wheel locking under braking which resulted in the stupid bike falling. I had plenty of distance to stop but I grabbed too much brake/break.

All my bikes since have ABS as standard and I never notice their effects until something silly happens and I have to chuck the anchor oot suddenly.
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[Knightsy]

[fox]

[Walloper]

[yen_powell]

If we stop the panic brakers skidding and falling off how will we remove them from the gene pool? This is not the way to breed a new super race of bikers!

I say bring back drum brakes, forget disc brakes even existed. That'll sort the men from the boys......
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[Copycat73]

its fitted to my ZZR14 ... cannot say I`ve ever felt it activate...
not that I have any intentions of removing or switchin it off though..
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[Walloper]

[Rogerborg]

[Knightsy]

[-Matt-]

On new bikes - to be honest yes - but not if they still want to throw in a huge extra whack on the price to compensate for it.

And they need to sort out the technology a bit more before rolling it out absolutely everywhere, as with the BMW abs problems a while back.

Personally I don't see any 'loss of fun' etc to biking if bikes from here on in were ABS. That being said again if the systems are messing up and your average home mechanic is having to go down a dealership every 5 minutes to get things fixed - bullsh-t...