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Pete.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Nearly bought it today. Reply with quote

Had a very close call this morning about 11am. I got onto the A2 at Pepper Hill, started climbing up the hill towards the Swanscombe Cutting, just passed the Ebbsfleet on-slip.

Road is four lanes, 1st lane turns into a slip road for Bean/Bluewater about a mile ahead so a lot of people get out into lane 2 early on. I had made my way into the outside lane on my bike and got to about 70mph. 3rd lane is moving at 50-60mph, which is two cars slowly overhauling a lorry in lane two, one near the 5th wheel, the other near the rear axles. First two lanes are quite densely packed with at least one vehicle moving slowly up the hill.

I didn't see the catylist of what kicked it off but as I pass the car level with the rear of the lorry in lane 2, the lorry braked, indicated and turned all in one movement into lane 3. Front car in lane 3 brakes hard and move to the extreme right of his lane, trying not to come over on me because and I am closing fast from his heavy braking. I get right over to the extreme right of my lane, hope to hell this car leaves me room because there's no way out but past him.

Lorry keeps coming, front car gets fully into outside lane and puts me in the small gap between white line and barrier, until my momentum carries me past and I get back into outside lane.

Car at rear of lorry is not so lucky, there's another vehicle in the outside lane behind me, so he gets his bumper ripped off and wheel arch chewed up by the lorry wheels.

Lorry driver initially keeps on truckin', until I and the guy he didn't hit convince him to pull over about half a mile down the road. All got on the hard shoulder and I left my details with the poor fella with the mangled car as a witness. Lorry driver is pretty unrepentant, claiming he had no choice but to push us over because another car pushed him out. I didn't see any of that so I couldn't comment.

All in all, a very lucky day for me.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No paint pic?
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please go back in time and buy 6 GoPros.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Nearly bought it today. Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

All in all, a very lucky day for me.


I'd say the lucky one was the bloke 2 minutes in front of you who didn't know anything about it :p

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the lorry braked, indicated and turned all in one movement into lane 3

Sadly that's how a lot of people drive these days (MSM - Manoeuvre, Signal, Mustfinishtexting), leaving you zero time to take evasive actions, - doing so in a lorry is even more worrisome.

Glad you're not deaded.

Karma for being a witness too, most people would just scarper and leave you to it.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a close call, scary stuff Confused

The amount of huge-ass lorrys i see tail gating on the motorway never fails to amaze me, you'd think weighing 100000 tons they'd leave a little extra gap in case mr-unpredictable trys to cut in or brake hard... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car push a lorry? Doubt that, a blast on the horn from the truck would have pushed the car back!

He was reading a map or his route/drop sheets!

He's a twat, shoot him!
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gavbriggs wrote:
He was reading a map or his route/drop sheets!


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PostPosted: 18:22 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was a twat, did he get shot too?
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to say yes on that one, with a shade of doubt but also some chance of accuracy.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that really gets my back up is so called professional drivers acting like knobs.

Taxi drivers, bus drivers, lorry drivers all act like complete dicks most of the time and if you stand up to them they look the other way as if you don't exist.

Not that I'm perfect but I do try hard to get things correct most of the time.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oblig-o-paint sketch. I give it 2/10 personally, you really had to be there....
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least bus and lorry drivers get proper trade specific tests.

Half the taxi drivers are free lance lunatics on a normal barely scraped license round here Shocked

So from the picture it would appear something came rocketing up the 'slow lane' and decided for no reason to cut in RIGHT in front of him.

His excuse sounds a bit dubious...
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:

So from the picture it would appear something came rocketing up the 'slow lane' and decided for no reason to cut in RIGHT in front of him.

His excuse sounds a bit dubious...


It does happen there, it's an arse of a junction, as is the bloke that designed it.

The other favourite there is people screaming up lane 4, missing the queue, then cutting across all 4 lanes at the last minute.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will avoid venturing near there anytime soon Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Nearly bought it today. Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
3rd lane is moving at 50-60mph, which is two cars slowly overhauling a lorry in lane two, one near the 5th wheel, the other near the rear axles.

Car at rear of lorry is not so lucky, there's another vehicle in the outside lane behind me, so he gets his bumper ripped off and wheel arch chewed up by the lorry wheels.


Well had that driver been sticking to the 2 sec rule he would still have a whole car and been watching it all unfold in front of him with time to react safely.

Well unless the wagon was more than 150' long.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you got away with it Pete - that A2 is definately an exciting road to travel on eh? Smile

Once had a woman swerve off for the Sidcup sliproad from lane 3 all across 3 lanes, right across my path. She was doing her mascara at the time - she had her little boy in the back seat too. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had two very close calls recently as well.

One the van ahead of me wasn't paying attention to a queue of stationary traffic ahead. My view was blocked by him. Totally out braked me and left me skidding down the road before I decided I wasn't going to stop and ended up filtering at speed.

The next time was road works on the exit of a roundabout and no warning signs leading up to warn you. A minibus was in the wrong lane ahead of me blocking my view of the road works on approach. Then at the last second a bus pulled out on me and cut me up on the roundabout itself completely obscuring my view of the exit. As i emerged past the bus they had completely closed the right lane. Almost ploughed straight into the big blue arrow sign and ended up having to slalom through traffic cones.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scary shit, glad you not deaded Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old man never gave me much riding advice, but one thing he did tell me was to always give yourself a way out. Between cars, onto the pavement, through roadworks, just have somewhere to go.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
I've had two very close calls recently as well.

One the van ahead of me wasn't paying attention to a queue of stationary traffic ahead. My view was blocked by him. Totally out braked me and left me skidding down the road before I decided I wasn't going to stop and ended up filtering at speed.

The next time was road works on the exit of a roundabout and no warning signs leading up to warn you. A minibus was in the wrong lane ahead of me blocking my view of the road works on approach. Then at the last second a bus pulled out on me and cut me up on the roundabout itself completely obscuring my view of the exit. As i emerged past the bus they had completely closed the right lane. Almost ploughed straight into the big blue arrow sign and ended up having to slalom through traffic cones.


Top one, sounds like you're too close to the van in front. If they're obscuring your view, you're too close. Second one sounds like the above with crap obs. IMO of course.

@ Pete, good word on avoiding the lorry driver. Was he a foreigner, I hear the Mail love these sorts of stories. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely survived Pete. I bet you put up a decent plume of dust too.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the paint diagram I'm assuming the lorry was a 44ton one. In which if the driver did exactly as he said then he is a fucking retard. A car changing it's path into a lorry is going to do fuck all to the lorry. My girlfriends dad is a lorry driver and has had a car change lanes into him and he barely noticed it happened, just felt the lorry wobble a little bit.

So if the lorry driver really swerved into another lane putting many lives at risk just because one fool was gonna nudge his side then he should have his license taken off him. The worst thing that could have happened is the offending car may have lost control but most likely all that would have happened is they had a few scratches. In fact whatever his reason there cannot have been a need to do what he did, he shouldn't be driving.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 09 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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