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Fladdem
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Yamaha TTR 250 Pedal Height Reply with quote

Hi, my ttr 250's brake pedal is too high to use when I am sat down, unless I am on the pillion seat, but if I adjust it for sitting, it is too low for standing. I think my legs are just too long and they are too crushed up, 37 inch inside leg, you know? I was wondering if there was a way of getting the pedal just right, I suppose there must have been some other tall people to have owned a ttr, did you experience this at all? I am also thinking about getting some seat foam, and raising the seat up, to make it flatter, like a motocross seat is more flat across the top. Any ideas?
A sincerely cramped up Adam.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Re: Yamaha TTR 250 Pedal Height Reply with quote

The TTR is known to be a bike more suitable for short people - one of the few that is.

However, as far as the pedals go, part of it is just getting used to moving your feet around a bit more than on a road bike.

You could get some more foam in the seat to raise it up a bit.

Is there any reason you went for the TTR?
If you've got the height, I'd be tempted to trade it in for a taller bike - as the TTR doesn't have the best handling/engine/etc, though it should be fairly 'reliable'.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for it because I was scared by the maintenance of the WR250F I was going to get before. It is supposed to be quite tall, with a 895mm seat height. although the wr was 995mm or something. I like it because it's my daily bike, the WR couldn't be used like mine does, also so I could learn to ride until I get my KTM 200, dream bike. But I can't afford a road bike and an off-road bike, so with my 33bhp restriction I needed a bike that met what I needed and the TTR was in my price range and filled all my needs.
It's just that I crashed quite badly a few months ago because I was wearing my MX boots and I went to brake and just locked up and high sided, because I had to take my foot off the pegs and then push the toe down on the pedal, that's why I wanted the pedal to be better positioned.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like an XR400 makes a decent daily bike with a higher seat and similar reliability. Or a DRZ400e, for a little more weight, but a little more modern and a bit more go. I find that sort of weight fine for green laning, but I've had a fair bit of experience riding various bikes (first bike I took properly off-road was a DR600 supermoto, which I found fine - but was used to riding a variety of bikes on road and track before that.)

Wearing mx boots and wanting the option of standing up too, I'm afraid it is mostly just a case of getting used to it - it took me a while.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I went out on that day simply trying to get used to the boots. My first offroad was my Varadero 125 with supermoto tyres in the middle of winter, NOTHING happens below 5000rpm on that bike, it took me about an hour to cover 2 miles, I was either spinning up or stalling.

I keep thinking after my restriction is up, go and get a nice 200cc two stroke enduro weapon, like a Gas Gas EC200 or a Husqvarna WR125 with a 144 kit, apparently they have some torque as well as power, or maybe an EXC400, supposedly the ideal laner and enduro bike.
Then the old CRM 250 beckons, as does the WR200. Then I think, or do I just want something the same but with less weight and a bit more go, like a klx300r or DRZ400E which actually has the same dry weight.
My head's all over the place when it comes to bikes, I even think about a ttr600 Belgarda and just work harder when I go to enduro practise days and that.
I suppose I'll just deal with it when I get there.
Thanks G
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 11 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DRZ400e makes a pretty good compromise for road and dirt use.
If you can handle the kickstart, the DR600 is a similar weight and similar power, but more midrange and less money to buy.

The KTM200 is still my favourite engine - I found the 144 was slightly missing in mid-range urge, while the 200 still had enough to loft the front of ditches, while still needing to keep it spinning sweetly, as opposed to the 250/300 2 strokes that have massed of low down go, so you don't need to worry about what gear you're in so much.

The CRM250 is a nice enough bike and better than the 4 stroke trail bikes, but doesn't come close to the sparkle of a 200 2 stroke on-song!
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 12 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that,
I would love a KTM 200, I just don't know if I can ride well enough to keep it screaming though, which is why I wonder about the torque at the bottom, for instance my TTR is easy to ride, I went round an extreme endure practise track with it once and I just stuck it in second and left it and it did everything there, as it was so tight I couldn't change up into third really, and I had only had the bike for two weeks and it had never been off tarmac in my hands at that point. For instance, my mates EXC125, you hop on it twist the throttle "buuuuuuur *bog* WAAAAAAAH!" I don't think I could ride a bike like that, it's too sudden a hit for me. and there's a nasty bog right in the middle just before it gets a move on.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 12 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 250cc and 300cc 2 stroke enduros have a very flat power delivery.

The KTM 144cc enduro I had also had the same - however my 200cc EXC was a little banshee - it was great when I was on form and everything 'clicked'. But it did wheelie me in to trees/the undergrowth a few times a few hours in to an enduro when I was tired - hits the powerband and takes off, which forces your hand back a bit more, keeping the power on!

To be fair, out of the power band, it probably makes the sort of power your TTR makes at peak power - it's just that at that point it really comes to life and goes and doubles the power it's making in not that many revs, or something.
It does depend on variety of things - you can set them up to be smooth and some years do have a smooth delivery.

I actually wondered if mine might have been setup with SX (motocross) parts, as the motocross 2 strokes have a much fiercer hit.

No bogging - that's probably a setup issue.

At some point I'd like to get a newer 200 - the newer 144 had almost mountain bike lightness and was amazing going down big bumpy stuff. In reality, I'd prefer a bit smoother delivery so I can control it when tired, but still want the bit of extra go to easily get over obstacles at speed.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 12 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That just makes me want one even more now, not the wheelying into the trees bit but the tunability of it, I had heard you could do adjusting to them to make it less vicious. And the lightness, I can put up with my ttr's obesity problem up until the 10th time you need to pick it up and you've been at it for 2 hours. Embarassed

I want a bike that will do everything but commute, the moped will do that when it's good to go again, i.e. enduro, green lane, motocross, nothing major but something like Weedon or other less jumpy tracks, the odd jump is fine but I don't really like that feeling of being in the air too much.

I'd like a great big 300 but I had a go on a TY something or other I think it was a 250 but I'm not sure I have the balls just yet, that's an old-school linear powered trials bike, the woes of starting late, my bosses lad rides a PW50 and just moved up to a KTM 50 and that would give my ttr a good run for it's money, that boy has no fear he's been at it since he was 4.

I don't know, I've gone completely off-topic now and confused my head some more.
Thanks for the help though. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 12 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The modern 125/150/200 are pretty amazingly light (all the same bike, just different bore kits).

The 250 and 300s are actually easier to ride and less scary thanks to the linear delivery; just leave them in a gear or two higher if you don't want to be flung off Smile - and the modern ones are still pretty light. Even with electric start, now listed at just under 102kg, which is the weight of the smaller bikes a few years ago.
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