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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 04:26 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: So let me get this straight... Reply with quote

... I goto my CBT centre with no experience for a day or whatever. And i pass my CBT (just pretend), so, I can ride ANY bike, as long as it is restricted to 14.6BHP? Then, do my theory plus hazard and perception, pass that. Then, do my practical, pass that, and I can ride ANY bike up to 33BHP? So, for example, i could ride a Suzuki GSXR 1000, but just restric it to a 33BHP? Or something similar?
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PostPosted: 04:29 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

After your CBT you can ride any bike of 11kw or 14.6bhp which has an engine no larger than 125cc. After your test you can ride anything restricted to 33bhp, anything over 600cc isn't recommended.
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PostPosted: 05:02 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply Sacarius. Although it isn't recommended, it is allowed though? I'm not going to get anything over 250 for a long time, just wondering out of curiosity.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you have your licence, yes, you can ride *anything* restricted to 33bhp.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much stolen straight from MCN: : Wink

The Law. (UK)
At 16- Pass your CBT and you're stuck to a maximum of 30mph and 50cc, classed as a moped.
At 17- Pass your CBT and you can ride anything up to a 125cc bike (max power output of 11kw, 14.6bhp) with L-plates. Not allowed to take pillions or use motorway.
Pass your theory and then a practical test and you can ride any bike as long as its restricted to 33bhp. Throw away your L-plates and use motorways and carry pillions. Restriction comes off after 2 years and you can ride whatever you like.
At 21 or over- You can now take a Direct Access course (DAS). You still need to complete a CBT, theory and full test. The test is taken on a more powerful bike (at least 46bhp) and if you pass you may ride any bike you like and obviously carry pillions and use the motorways.
If you have a car licence that you passed before Feb 1,2001 you are legally allowed to ride a moped (50cc) without taking any training, although CBT is advised.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my mate has got a cbt and he rides a jawa 350 with side car and hes legal cant remember wht power you are allowed with sidecar
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

A side car defies the point of having a bike in the first place, does it not?
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Frost
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 24 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just pass your car test and get yourself one of these!

https://www.petrolheadsmcc.co.uk/images/busa-trike.jpg
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Adam.I
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, look at that ^! How much is that! I can't stop laughing at it! Anyway, thanks a lot stew, cleared EVERYTHING up for me. Quality. Thanks everyone else too!
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Reano
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PostPosted: 03:34 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stew wrote:
Pretty much stolen straight from MCN: : Wink

The Law. (UK)
At 16- Pass your CBT and you're stuck to a maximum of 30mph and 50cc, classed as a moped.
At 17- Pass your CBT and you can ride anything up to a 125cc bike (max power output of 11kw, 14.6bhp) with L-plates. Not allowed to take pillions or use motorway.

so, let me get this straight.... (im 16 btw)
i passed my cbt not long ago, i was given the impression that i had to re-take my cbt again next year, is this true?.
also, does this mean when i am 17 years old i can ride a 125cc on my provisional liecence?? or do i have to re-take the cbt again?. i found the cbt easy, just following a bloke around on a bike, him giving the orders...etc, he also said it wasn't even a test, it was just so he could see if i was able to ride on the road, and if i wasn't i would go back again and try the cbt again without paying.......anyways, am i right?? or am i wrong?.
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Frost
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PostPosted: 03:38 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on what CBT you did. if you did your CBT on a ped then you can only have a ped unless you redo the CBT. if you did it on a geared bike then you can get whatever when your 17.

The busa trike is a custom thing, cant buy them.

https://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tst/images/-busa3-.jpg

i would definatly preffer one of those to a robin Wink
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PostPosted: 03:48 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is where things got kinda complicated.......
there was 2 of us during the cbt, me, and this other kid, we both where riding automatics at the time....
anyways, during the cbt this kids moped broke down, and the instructor had to ring his wife to bring a replacement bike, the instructor asked me if i was ok to ride a manual, i said "sure, id prefer a manual anyways" so i gave the kid the auto i was using, and i was handed this little manual bike.
i also recall the instructor constantly moaning at me on the radio saying "change gear!! change gear!!" he eventually pulled me over and said "why the hell dont you change gear!??? THat bikes revving way too high!".
it really was pissing me off, simply because i told him that i was in the HIGHEST gear it could go in, i think he was forgetting the fact it was only a 50cc and well, they do rev alot at top speed.....
still, i went home that night with a piece of paper saying i could go on the road, so....
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Frost
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PostPosted: 04:02 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

look on the peice of paper, it will say, thats what its for Wink
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CBT on a ped.
I got a geared 125 at 17, the guy at the shop said "You have your CBT? You can ride it" but I wasn't confident with gears, so I booked a half day with a CBT course, just to learn how to use the gears, they were aware I had done my CBT on a ped at 16 years old.
They showed me what to do, let me practice with the CBT group in the car park and sent me on my way.
Seems I may be riding illegaly.
Guess I will have to retake my CBT before I start my lessons/take my test.....?


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PostPosted: 13:22 - 25 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:44 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can legally take your cbt on a ped and ride a geared bike (up to 125cc) when you turn 17. Although i keep hearing rumours that they will change the CBT to restrict you to an auto if you do it on an auto (if that makes sense)
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
You can legally take your cbt on a ped and ride a geared bike (up to 125cc) when you turn 17. Although i keep hearing rumours that they will change the CBT to restrict you to an auto if you do it on an auto (if that makes sense)

So I am okay?
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh

Yeah your ok.

I think the only time it is restricted is if you take your cbt with a sidecar attached.

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PostPosted: 09:19 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only 1 type of CBT and it doesn't have geared or automatic marked on it. You pass a CBT and at 16 you can ride a 50cc, and at 17 you can ride a 125cc. It is worth doing the CBT on which ever you plan on using. Sure doing a day on a twist and go is much easier than having to play around with the clutch and gears but it's best you get trained and checked that you're safe enough rather than just trying to ride your new toy home and not having a clue how to operate the clutch and gears correctly and safely.

It would make more sense to have to have a CBT allowing you to use gears, or allowing you just on an automatic as car tests reflect the type of gearbox the vehicle has and if you do your car test in an automatic you're only allowed to drive an automatic. It does make sense and it'd hopefully improve road safety as well I reckon.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is talk about the CBT only being valid for 1 year but at the moment its valid for 2, after that you need to retake it.

Guessing they are making it 1 to encourage people to take their full test instead of riding on L plates for so long.

If i'm wrong correct me, it was just a rumour i heard. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 15:18 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah well, I'm happy, although it doesn't make sense in my opinion that someone can go from a years ped riding, and pick up a geared 125 with no experience of gears, hence why I did a half day with a CBT course learning how to use gears.
But at least I don't need to retake my CBT for my test etc.
Yay.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsooty wrote:
Guessing they are making it 1 to encourage people to take their full test instead of riding on L plates for so long.

There is already the encouragement to do your full test that you're then allowed to ride a bigger bike, use motorways, take pillions and take those L plates off . Smile The cost and hassle involved in doing your CBT again is of a similar level to doing your CBT again.

And also your insurance will be cheaper after passing your test, and if nothing else it pays to get your 33bhp two year clock ticking away.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

jezseaton wrote:

p.s is there an AA/RAC car check equivelent for 2nd hand bikes?

Jez

MCN do a bike check for about £35 to see if its been crashed or stolen or anything untoward has happened to it. Didn't take it up personally but if you're unsure you can give them a bell.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 02 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
You can legally take your cbt on a ped and ride a geared bike (up to 125cc) when you turn 17. Although i keep hearing rumours that they will change the CBT to restrict you to an auto if you do it on an auto (if that makes sense)
That makes sense - if you take your car test in an auto you are restricted to an auto!
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 02 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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